[Cloud] Document access

[Cloud] Document access

[Cloud] Document access

William A Wagner wamwagner at comcast.net
Tue Oct 22 19:30:37 UTC 2013


Although there was a slight glitch for Cloud (which Mike has fixed), the
HTTP alias gives access to the FTP site, so that anything posted to the FTP
site now or in the past should be accessible via HTTP.   Chances are that
many of us will continue to post using Filezilla, but these posts will be
accessible using HTTP (for traditional feature deprived browsers).

 

 

From: cloud-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira
McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:51 AM
To: Randy Turner
Cc: <cloud at pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [Cloud] Document access

 

Hi Randy,

As Mike said, no downside for retrieval.  But the actual posting mechanism

will remain FTP, because we have hundreds of PWG document references

in specs from other standards bodies and those have to be long-term stable.

Cheers,

- Ira




Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Randy Turner <rturner at amalfisystems.com>
wrote:

 

The idea here was that it is more interoperable to access documents via
their http: link than FTP 

 

The browser that was "so defective" was Chrome on OS X Mountain Lion

 

It seems reasonable to use a link with the fewest potential problems for
access - what's the downside of using http?

 

R.


On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mike,

So is this a new PWG standard  practice decision?

Only post all new documents w/ HTTP links?   Because someone

has a browser so defective that it can't access FTP links?

Sorry, up all night on calls to TCG meeting sessions in Osaka, Japan,

so I'm a bit frustrated by this thread.

Cheers,

- Ira




Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
 <http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic>
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
 <http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc>
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434

 

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:

Ira,

 

You can now use ftp: or http: to reference files on the FTP server, e.g.:

 

    ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsix10-20130923.pdf

    http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsix10-20130923.pdf

 

 

On Oct 21, 2013, at 7:46 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:





Hi Mike,

Out of curiosity, since there were a lot of topics in Randy's note, *what*
is

now done?

Cheers,

- Ira




Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
 <http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic>
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
 <http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc>
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434

 

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:

This is now done.

On Oct 21, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Randy Turner <rturner at amalfisystems.com> wrote:

>
> Ok, thanks.
>
> This happened again this evening when I tried to access the links that Joe
Murdock published earlier today.I was using a laptop that was failing the
FTP links.
>
> If we could just substitute http for ftp when publishing links then this
would be great.
>
> R.
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
>
>> Randy,
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Randy Turner <rturner at amalfisystems.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> I would like to request that hyperlinks to documents (minutes,
documents, whatever) be  "http:" links instead of "ftp:" links -- on a
number of occasions, I and some of my colleagues have been in situations
where we are using a browser that has issues with issuing "ftp:" requests.
>>>
>>> Whereas using "http:" requests would be more "universal" with regards to
be able to access documents in any browser context (even at an internet cafe
where we might not have configuration capability with the browser).
>>
>> We already have (currently undocumented) aliases on the main pwg.org
<http://pwg.org/>  web site to the standards directories.  It would be
trivial to support "http://ftp.pwg.org/.. <http://ftp.pwg.org/> ." aliases
for all "ftp://ftp.pwg.org/.. <ftp://ftp.pwg.org/> ." links.
>>
>>> Also, on another topic, after navigating the PWG website, I can't find
any way to subscribe to the "PWG announce" mailing list.  I already
subscribe -- I'm making this comment because one of my colleagues was trying
to subscribe and couldn't find a "subscribe" link for "PWG-announce".
>>
>> Anyone that is subscribed to the WG mailing lists automatically should be
subscribed to the pwg-announce list, but you can subscribe to just the
pwg-announce list at:
>>
>>   https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
>>
>>
>

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