IPP> BOUNCE ipp@pwg.org: Non-member submission from [Carl Kugler <kugler@us.ibm.com>]

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I, too, agree with Scott's proposed changes as well as the slight 
modification subsequently offered by M. Sweet on 8/01.

        -Carl Kugler





Harry Lewis
08/02/2004 11:19 AM

        To:     "Hastings, Tom N" <hastings at cp10.es.xerox.com>
        cc:     ipp at pwg.org, Scott Hollenbeck <sah at 428cobrajet.net>, (bcc: 

Carl Kugler/Boulder/IBM)
        Subject:        RE: IPP> Final Editing Steps for 
draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2

I agree with Scott's proposed changes as well as the slight modification 
subsequently offered by M. Sweet on 8/01.
---------------------------------------------- 
Harry Lewis 
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems 
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
---------------------------------------------- 



"Hastings, Tom N" <hastings at cp10.es.xerox.com> 
Sent by: owner-ipp at pwg.org
07/30/2004 12:13 PM

To
Scott Hollenbeck <sah at 428cobrajet.net>
cc
ipp at pwg.org
Subject
RE: IPP> Final Editing Steps for draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2






Scott,

These changes look good to me.  Thanks for the improvements.

I left a message for Carl Kugler and Harry Lewis to look it over as well,
since they are also authors.  Carl will be back in the office Monday, 
August
2 and Harry, Tuesday, August 3.

Tom Hastings

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ipp at pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp at pwg.org]On Behalf Of Scott
Hollenbeck
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 11:02
To: ipp at pwg.org
Subject: IPP> Final Editing Steps for draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2


I've been working with the two Security area ADs to get the final IESG
approvals for draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2.  Steve Bellovin still had some
minor concerns with the second paragraph of the new Security
Considerations section (he said that he still found it hard to read), but
we can deal with that without requiring a new version of the document.  I
can have the document approved with a note to the RFC Editor requesting
some minor changes.  That being the case, here's how I wish to proceed:

Change this:

"Printer operations defined in this specification (see section 3) and
Pause-Printer, Resume-Printer, and Purge-Job (defined in [RFC2911])
are intended for use by an operator and/or administrator.  Job
operations defined in this specification (see section 4) and Cancel-
Job, Hold-Job, Release-Job defined in [RFC2911]) are intended for use
by the job owner or may be an operator or administrator of the
Printer object.  These operator and administrative operations affect
the service of all users.  In appropriate use of an administrative
operation by an un-authenticated end user could affect the quality of
service for all users.  Therefore, for both inter-net and intra-net,
conformance to this specification REQUIRES that initial configuration
of IPP Printer implementations MUST require successful certificate-
based TLS [RFC2246] client authentication and successful operator and
administrator authorization (see [RFC2911] sections 5.2.7 and 8 and
[RFC2910]) for any administrative operations defined in this
document.  [RFC2910] REQUIRES the IPP Printer to support the minimum
cypher suite required for TLS/1.0.  The means for authorizing an
operator or administrator of the Printer object are outside the scope
of this specification, [RFC2911], and [RFC2910]."

to this:

"Printer operations defined in this specification (see section 3) and
Pause-Printer, Resume-Printer, and Purge-Job (defined in [RFC2911]) are
intended for use by an operator and/or administrator.  Job operations
defined in this specification (see section 4) and Cancel-Job, Hold-Job, 
and
Release-Job (defined in [RFC2911]) are intended for use by the job owner,
operator, or administrator of the Printer object.  These operator and
administrative operations affect service for all users.

Inappropriate use of an administrative operation by an unauthenticated end
user can affect the quality of service for all users.  Therefore, IPP
Printer implementations MUST require both successful certificate-based TLS
[RFC2246] client authentication and successful operator/administrator
authorization (see [RFC2911] sections 5.2.7 and 8 and [RFC2910]) to 
perform
the administrative operations defined in this document.  [RFC2910] 
requires
the IPP Printer to support the minimum cipher suite specified for TLS/1.0.
The means for authorizing an operator or administrator of the Printer 
object
are outside the scope of this specification, RFC 2910, and RFC 2911."

In addition, a normative reference to RFC 2119 will need to be added.  The
"change history" comment at the end of the list of informative references
will need to be removed.

Please let me know ASAP if there are any objections to this approach.  if
not, I will ask the IESG to approve the document with the RFC Editor note
included.

-Scott-



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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I, too, agree with Scott's proposed
changes as well as the slight modification subsequently offered by M. 
Sweet
on 8/01.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -Carl
Kugler</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<table width=100%>
<tr valign=top>
<td>
<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>Harry Lewis</b></font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">08/02/2004 11:19 AM</font>
<td>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; To:
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;Hastings, Tom N&quot; 
&lt;hastings at cp10.es.xerox.com&gt;</font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; cc:
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ipp at pwg.org, Scott Hollenbeck 
&lt;sah at 428cobrajet.net&gt;,
(bcc: Carl Kugler/Boulder/IBM)</font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Subject:
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;RE: IPP&gt; Final Editing Steps for
draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2</font><a 
href=Notes:///87256523005C11F8/A24CF79FA927570285256356005827C4/BCBE67C99058886387256EE100644714>Link</a></table>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I agree with Scott's proposed changes
as well as the slight modification subsequently offered by M. Sweet on
8/01.</font>
<br><font size=2 
face="sans-serif">----------------------------------------------
<br>
Harry Lewis <br>
IBM STSM<br>
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
http://www.pwg.org<br>
IBM Printing Systems <br>
http://www.ibm.com/printers<br>
303-924-5337<br>
---------------------------------------------- </font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<table width=100%>
<tr valign=top>
<td width=40%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>&quot;Hastings, Tom 
N&quot;
&lt;hastings at cp10.es.xerox.com&gt;</b> </font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: owner-ipp at pwg.org</font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">07/30/2004 12:13 PM</font>
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<table width=100%>
<tr>
<td>
<div align=right><font size=1 face="sans-serif">To</font></div>
<td valign=top><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Scott Hollenbeck 
&lt;sah at 428cobrajet.net&gt;</font>
<tr>
<td>
<div align=right><font size=1 face="sans-serif">cc</font></div>
<td valign=top><font size=1 face="sans-serif">ipp at pwg.org</font>
<tr>
<td>
<div align=right><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Subject</font></div>
<td valign=top><font size=1 face="sans-serif">RE: IPP&gt; Final Editing
Steps for draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2</font></table>
<br>
<table>
<tr valign=top>
<td>
<td></table>
<br></table>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>Scott,<br>
<br>
These changes look good to me. &nbsp;Thanks for the improvements.<br>
<br>
I left a message for Carl Kugler and Harry Lewis to look it over as 
well,<br>
since they are also authors. &nbsp;Carl will be back in the office Monday,
August<br>
2 and Harry, Tuesday, August 3.<br>
<br>
Tom Hastings<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: owner-ipp at pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp at pwg.org]On Behalf Of Scott<br>
Hollenbeck<br>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 11:02<br>
To: ipp at pwg.org<br>
Subject: IPP&gt; Final Editing Steps for draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2<br>
<br>
<br>
I've been working with the two Security area ADs to get the final IESG<br>
approvals for draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2. &nbsp;Steve Bellovin still had 
some<br>
minor concerns with the second paragraph of the new Security<br>
Considerations section (he said that he still found it hard to read), 
but<br>
we can deal with that without requiring a new version of the document.
&nbsp;I<br>
can have the document approved with a note to the RFC Editor 
requesting<br>
some minor changes. &nbsp;That being the case, here's how I wish to 
proceed:<br>
<br>
Change this:<br>
<br>
&quot;Printer operations defined in this specification (see section 3)
and<br>
Pause-Printer, Resume-Printer, and Purge-Job (defined in [RFC2911])<br>
are intended for use by an operator and/or administrator. &nbsp;Job<br>
operations defined in this specification (see section 4) and Cancel-<br>
Job, Hold-Job, Release-Job defined in [RFC2911]) are intended for use<br>
by the job owner or may be an operator or administrator of the<br>
Printer object. &nbsp;These operator and administrative operations 
affect<br>
the service of all users. &nbsp;In appropriate use of an 
administrative<br>
operation by an un-authenticated end user could affect the quality of<br>
service for all users. &nbsp;Therefore, for both inter-net and 
intra-net,<br>
conformance to this specification REQUIRES that initial configuration<br>
of IPP Printer implementations MUST require successful certificate-<br>
based TLS [RFC2246] client authentication and successful operator and<br>
administrator authorization (see [RFC2911] sections 5.2.7 and 8 and<br>
[RFC2910]) for any administrative operations defined in this<br>
document. &nbsp;[RFC2910] REQUIRES the IPP Printer to support the 
minimum<br>
cypher suite required for TLS/1.0. &nbsp;The means for authorizing an<br>
operator or administrator of the Printer object are outside the scope<br>
of this specification, [RFC2911], and [RFC2910].&quot;<br>
<br>
to this:<br>
<br>
&quot;Printer operations defined in this specification (see section 3)
and<br>
Pause-Printer, Resume-Printer, and Purge-Job (defined in [RFC2911]) 
are<br>
intended for use by an operator and/or administrator. &nbsp;Job 
operations<br>
defined in this specification (see section 4) and Cancel-Job, Hold-Job,
and<br>
Release-Job (defined in [RFC2911]) are intended for use by the job 
owner,<br>
operator, or administrator of the Printer object. &nbsp;These operator
and<br>
administrative operations affect service for all users.<br>
<br>
Inappropriate use of an administrative operation by an unauthenticated
end<br>
user can affect the quality of service for all users. &nbsp;Therefore,
IPP<br>
Printer implementations MUST require both successful certificate-based
TLS<br>
[RFC2246] client authentication and successful operator/administrator<br>
authorization (see [RFC2911] sections 5.2.7 and 8 and [RFC2910]) to 
perform<br>
the administrative operations defined in this document. &nbsp;[RFC2910]
requires<br>
the IPP Printer to support the minimum cipher suite specified for 
TLS/1.0.<br>
The means for authorizing an operator or administrator of the Printer 
object<br>
are outside the scope of this specification, RFC 2910, and RFC 
2911.&quot;<br>
<br>
In addition, a normative reference to RFC 2119 will need to be added. 
&nbsp;The<br>
&quot;change history&quot; comment at the end of the list of informative
references<br>
will need to be removed.<br>
<br>
Please let me know ASAP if there are any objections to this approach. 
&nbsp;if<br>
not, I will ask the IESG to approve the document with the RFC Editor 
note<br>
included.<br>
<br>
-Scott-<br>
</tt></font>
<br>
<br>
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