[IPP] media-type names and cotton?

[IPP] media-type names and cotton?

[IPP] media-type names and cotton?

Michael Sweet msweet at apple.com
Tue Jun 19 05:39:00 UTC 2012


Paul,

On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi at tykodi.com> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>  
> I have been meaning to send in a question about how we should represent printed electronics. To some degree, the technology creates the same semantic issues as fabric but it also brings color of ink when current is applied into the semantics as well.

I think new technologies such as these need more discussion and background than simply adding some names to MSN2.  Certainly we could register new marker supply types for electroluminescent ink, metallic (conductive) ink, etc, but what about the substrate?

There are similar issues for 3D (layered) printing technologies - how might we define a model, format, etc. for that?



>  
> See: http://www.printedelectroniccover.com/
>  
> Best Regards,
>  
> /Paul
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> From: ipp-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sweet
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 5:50 PM
> To: William A Wagner
> Cc: ipp at pwg.org
> Subject: Re: [IPP] media-type names and cotton?
>  
> Bill,
>  
> I did some quick searches and found the obligatory Wikipedia article:
>  
>             http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_paper
>  
> This page would seem to indicate that the more general term is now just "cotton paper" or "cotton bond paper" since rags/scrap fabric are only one source of the fibers.
>  
> So my proposed addition is "stationery-cotton".
>  
> ........
>  
> A search for printable fabrics yielded some available inkjet products:
>  
>             http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Printable-Fabric-Printers-03384/dp/B0000C0CJZ
>             http://www.lexjet.com/p-3009-Photo-Tex-PSA-Fabric-Aqueous-Printers.aspx
>             http://www.fabricdepot.com/index.php?page=CatalogPage&pageid=14515
>  
> I see a variety of sheet and roll media, with and without adhesive backing (some are iron-on, some are room temperature adhesives). How about the following additional type names:
>  
>             fabric                                       Generic printable fabric (sheets or rolls)
>             fabric-heat-adhesive                Printable fabric with a heat-activated adhesive backing
>             fabric-self-adhesive                 Printable fabric with a self-adhesive backing (no heat required)
>             fabric-fine                                           Printable fabric with a thread count of 200 or more
>             fabric-coarse                            Printable fabric with a thread count less then 100
>  
>  
> On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:23 PM, William A Wagner wrote:
> 
> 
> Mike,
> I suggest that the use of “fabric” as a top-level media type is reasonable but as a qualifier for stationary is not, because the word refers to the product of a  weaving or felting process, not the type of fiber used.  If a general qualifier is needed, the common term is rag (at least it used to be); e.g., rag-content paper But I recall the specific request was for “cotton” and cotton is the fiber normally used in rag paper.
> Further, whereas Cotton paper is made from cotton fibers, my understand is that the term Linen paper  commonly refers to wood pulp or cotton paper finished to look/have the texture of linen, so the use of cotton and linen are not parallel in this context.
> Thanks,
> Bill Wagner
>  
> From: ipp-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sweet
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 3:40 PM
> To: Petrie, Glen
> Cc: ipp at pwg.org
> Subject: Re: [IPP] media-type names and cotton?
>  
> Glen,
>  
> "stationery" is just plain sheets of paper. There are qualified versions of stationery as well, e.g., "stationery-letterhead", so this would just be another form of that - think special paper used for cover letters or resumes that otherwise behaves and is used like plain paper.
>  
> Technically we could use "fabric" as a top-level media type with qualified versions for different fabrics and finishes, e.g.:
>  
>             fabric
>             fabric-cotton
>             fabric-glossy
>             fabric-high-gloss
>             fabric-inkjet
>             fabric-linen
>             fabric-matte
>             fabric-semi-gloss
>             fabric-tweed
>             fabric-waterproof
>  
> however I would consider those types to be specific to fabric printing, e.g. curtains, clothing, etc., and not to sheets of specialized paper.
>  
>  
> On Jun 18, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:
> Mike
>  
> Maybe I wrong but I thought stationery was just another word for "plain"; so this new name means "plain-cotton".   Is there anything wrong with just cotton and linen?
>  
> Glen
>  
>  
> From: ipp-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sweet
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:22 PM
> To: Peter Zehler
> Cc: <ipp at pwg.org>
> Subject: [IPP] media-type names and cotton?
>  
> Pete/All,
>  
> Do I just need to add "stationery-cotton" to the media type name list in MSN2?
>  
> Do we want this generalized (stationery-fabric?) or list other materials, e.g., linen?
>  
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