[IPP] RFC: Consensus on new "output-bin" values: 'collator' and 'job-separator', issue for "output-bin-actual"

[IPP] RFC: Consensus on new "output-bin" values: 'collator' and 'job-separator', issue for "output-bin-actual"

[IPP] RFC: Consensus on new "output-bin" values: 'collator' and 'job-separator', issue for "output-bin-actual"

Michael Sweet msweet at apple.com
Thu Aug 21 16:57:26 UTC 2014


In my "pending" queue.  I'll be sending updates to Ira "soon"...


On Aug 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy at hp.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> Where are we with the IANA registrations for these keywords?
> 
> Smith
> 
> 
> 
> On 2014-07-15, at 1:06 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I agree.  All of this proposal looks right (with Smith's clarifications).
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>> 
>> 
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
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>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
>> Smith,
>> 
>> True about output-bin-actual being optional, so I agree with the proposed tweaks.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy at hp.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi Mike,
>> >
>> > A few tweaks:
>> >
>> >   'collator'; Each copy is placed in an empty output tray. If all trays are full, the Printer cycles through each of the trays in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output trays MUST be reported in the “output-bin-actual” Job Description attribute if that attribute is supported by the Printer.
>> >
>> >   'job-separator'; All of the output for the Job is placed in an empty output tray. If no trays are empty, the Printer chooses an output tray in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output tray MUST be reported in the “output-bin-actual” Job Description attribute if that attribute is supported by the Printer.
>> >
>> > Since the “xxx-actual” attributes are only required by IPP/2.2 as per 5100.12, it is at least possible that a printer has implemented output bins but hasn’t implemented “xxx-actual” attribute support.
>> >
>> > Smith
>> >
>> > /**
>> >    Smith Kennedy
>> >    ATB Wireless Architect - PPS
>> >    Hewlett-Packard Co.
>> > */
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2014-07-14, at 3:11 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> We discussed the proposed values for the "output-bin" attribute at today's IPP concall and have some minor changes to the definitions along with a larger clarification for the "printer-output-tray" attribute.
>> >>
>> >> However, one of the conclusions may need to change since after further research it appears that PWG 5100.8 did indeed define the "output-bin-actual" attribute as "1setOf (type2 keyword | name(MAX)))".
>> >>
>> >> Thus, I would like to update the definition of the "output-bin" values to be as follows:
>> >>
>> >>   'collator'; Each copy is placed in an empty output tray. If all trays are full, the Printer cycles through each of the trays in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output trays MUST reported in the "output-bin-actual" Job Description attribute.
>> >>
>> >>   'job-separator'; All of the output for the Job is placed in an empty output tray. If no trays are empty, the Printer chooses an output tray in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output tray MUST be reported in the "output-bin-actual" Job Description attribute.
>> >>
>> >> That would also imply that the 'auto' value should assign the chosen tray as well:
>> >>
>> >>   'auto'; All of the output for the Job is sent to an implementation-defined output tray based on the Job Template and Document Template attributes. The chosen output tray MUST be reported in the "output-bin-actual" Job Description attribute.
>> >>
>> >> ....
>> >>
>> >> Since the "printer-output-tray" attribute is linked to the "output-bin-supported" attribute, we discussed how to report logical trays such as 'auto', 'collator', and 'job-separator'. We decided the following:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Logical trays are provided by the service, so while they will be listed in the "printer-output-tray" attribute they will NOT be listed in the Printer MIB prtOutputTray table.
>> >>
>> >> 2. Logical trays are reported in "printer-output-tray" using a 'type' value of 'other' (1). The values of the other fields are calculated in an implementation-defined behavior (roll-up status, etc.)
>> >>
>> >> 3. The same behavior should be applied to "printer-input-tray" for the "media-source" value of 'auto'.
>> >>
>> >> Comments?
>> >>
>> >> _________________________________________________________
>> >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
>> >>
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