Thanks, "Protective" clearly maps to the existing 'archival' coating types. "Aqueous" would also seem to map to 'archival' unless we feel that it is important to differentiate between "green" and "non-green" coatings in the job ticket?
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:
>> See good detailed response from Jim Mekis below, as well as Rainer's reply
> already sent to SM3 and IPP mailing lists.
> - Ira
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>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: James Mekis <jmekis at mekis.net>
> Date: Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 2:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Rainer - need definitions of two JDF coating types ASAP
> To: blueroofmusic at gmail.com, Rainer Prosi <Rainer.Prosi at heidelberg.com>
>>> Ira & Rainer -
>> I am not a coatings expert, but here is a short coatings description based
> on my experience. (I am presuming that "Finishings 2.0" is focused on
> post-press operations):
>> The coatings listed in JDF's ColorIntent Resource Table can be applied
> either inline or offline. Offline coatings (finishing) are typically
> intended to be protective. They can increase water-resistance,
> scuff-resistance, and even food resistance in the case of restaurant menus.
> They have been used for decades to protect offset printed sheets, and usage
> has increased with the desire to protect digitally printed sheets,
> especially photo images. Like varnish, they come in gloss & dull variants.
>> The most commonly coating types requested by customers today are UV coatings
> (Ultra Violet cured polymers) which provide higher durability, and aqueous
> coatings that are viewed as "greener" and typically more easily recycled at
> end-of-life. Both types of overall coating protect the printed image as well
> as the substrate. They also may be applied over foil embossed surfaces in
> some instances.
>> Customers may also specify the performance characteristic they desire in the
> coating rather than specifying a coating type. Common examples are
> water-resistance, and rub-resistance. Both characteristics may be required
> at the same time. An example is in the wine industry, where the white wine
> label has to survive transport rubbing, followed by water and rubbing ice
> cubes in a bucket upon serving.
>> Does this help?
>> - Jim
>>> == ==
> Rainer Prosi wrote:
>> > Hi Jim
> > I believe that the definitions were drafted during the printtalk discussions.
> > Could you please help Ira out.
> > Thanks
> > Rainer
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com>
> > Date: 20/10/2014 23:48 (GMT+01:00)
> > To: ipp at pwg.org,"Semantic Model 3.0 Workgroup discussion list"
> > <sm3 at pwg.org>,"Prosi, Rainer PT-RD3" <Rainer.Prosi at heidelberg.com>,Rick
> > Yardumian <RYardumian at ciis.canon.com>,Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Rainer - need definitions of two JDF coating types ASAP
> > Hi,
> > In our review of PWG Last Call comments today on Finishings 2.0,
> > I got the following action item that I'm passing on to you Rainer:
> > "Action: Ira to ask Rick and Rainer about JDF coating types: "Aqueous"
> > and "Protective"
> > They are not defined in JDF (as far as Mike Sweet could find) and we
> > can't add a keyword to a PWG spec without a clear definition.
> > Cheers,
> > - Ira
> > PS - A reply by the next JDFMAP call next Monday 27 October would
> > be much appreciated - thanks.
> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
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