[IPP] Finishings 2.0 and "trimming-offset" / "trimming-offset-supported"?

[IPP] Finishings 2.0 and "trimming-offset" / "trimming-offset-supported"?

Ira McDonald blueroofmusic at gmail.com
Mon Apr 6 17:37:33 UTC 2015


Hi,

FWIW - the TrimmingOffset mapping in JDFMAP is definitely single-valued
(in JDF) - I really dislike adding multi-valued XxxOffset elements in IPP
Finishings 2.0 - the meaning would be very implementation-specific.

Cheers,
- Ira

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On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:

> Smith,
>
> I'll need to dig a bit to see which was intended, however the -supported
> syntax is designed to allow the printer to return both ranges and discrete
> values that might be supported.
>
> The 1setOf syntax for trimming-offset would allow for multiple cuts from a
> single finishings-col value - useful for cutting business cards, for
> example - however I'm not sure how that would work for a printer.  Most of
> the cutters I've used on printers have been cross-cut (perpendicular to the
> feed direction, so top/bottom reference edge), with some providing a pair
> of cutters for the left/right (as the media exited the marking engine)...
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <
> smith.kennedy at hp.com> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > In Finishings 2.0, I’ve been puzzling over the “trimming-offset” /
> “trimming-offset-supported” attribute definitions and their respective type
> declarations.  I see this on page 38:
> >
> >   5.2.13.1 trimming-offset (1setOf integer(0:MAX))
> >
> > but on page 49 in the IANA registrations and on the IANA
> ipp-registrations page, I find:
> >
> >  trimming-offset (integer(0:MAX))    [PWG5100.1]
> >
> >
> > I am assuming from the attribute definition that (integer (0:MAX) ) is
> the correct one?  If a Printer supported a set of values like “0,3-5, 8-15,
> 22”,  for “trimming-offset-supported”, then the definition of
> “trimming-offset-supported” on page 47 seems reasonable:
> >
> >   6.26 trimming-offset-supported (1setOf (integer(0:MAX) |
> rangeOfInteger(0:MAX)))
> >
> > Was this attribute definition’s type declaration done in this way to
> allow just such a range of values to be expressed?  Or is there something
> wrong with this type declaration as well?
> >
> > Are there any others that don’t match?  (I didn’t check myself beyond
> these attributes.)
> >
> > Smith
> >
> > /**
> >    Smith Kennedy
> >    Hewlett-Packard Co.
> > */
> >
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