[IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1

[IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1

Michael Sweet msweet at apple.com
Tue Apr 17 13:15:46 UTC 2018


Paul,

I'm not aware of any IPP Everywhere client that does this - CUPS certainly doesn't.


> On Apr 17, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi at tykodi.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ira,
> 
> My thought is that some vendor developed IPP Everywhere implementations may tweak PDF or JPEG processing on the client (i.e. sender) side for certain 1284 device ID’s.
> 
> If we make retiring them a two step process, we probably would give any developers that have done this time to adjust their code.
> 
> I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywhere but am just asking about best way to implement change so that developers have time to react.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> /Paul
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Paul - you can't submit a 1284 Device ID as a command in IPP - it's a declarative
>> property only.
>> 
>> Mike and Smith - certainly we should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP Everywhere,
>> which is about driverless printing.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>> 
>> 
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>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi at tykodi.com <mailto:ptykodi at tykodi.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Where I believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job processing device specific commands, I don’t believe we should fully retire support for the 1284 device ID’s at this time.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> /Paul
>> 
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>> From: ipp <ipp-bounces at pwg.org <mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org>> On Behalf Of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec)
>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM
>> To: Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com <mailto:msweet at apple.com>>
>> Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector <ipp at pwg.org <mailto:ipp at pwg.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I approve and second this!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Smith
>> 
>> /**
>>     Smith Kennedy
>>     Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
>>     Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
>>     Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>>     HP Inc.
>> */
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com <mailto:msweet at apple.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd like remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
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