[IPP] Canonical IPP way to set job-sheets to a different paper/tray/medium?

[IPP] Canonical IPP way to set job-sheets to a different paper/tray/medium?

Ira McDonald blueroofmusic at gmail.com
Tue Dec 11 19:03:18 UTC 2018


Hi Smith,

No need for System Service updates.

As Mike observed earlier in this thread, job-sheets-col (PWG 5100.3
Production Printing) already
covers this feature.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 12:15 PM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards
Architect) <smith.kennedy at hp.com> wrote:

> Ah, good point!
>
> Should there be an addition to System Service to support banner page
> management? Or are we going to consider banner pages a resource managed
> out-of-band of IPP? System Service doesn't seem to have that currently.
>
> Smith
>
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Smith,
>
> Except that Client-side banner pages can't include info known only to the
> Printer
> (which typically is included in banner pages) such as actual time of
> printing.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic at gmail.com
> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:05 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards
> Architect) <smith.kennedy at hp.com> wrote:
>
>> If the Printer supported IPP "overrides", it might also be possible for a
>> driver upstream of the IPP client to support this as a "driver feature" by
>> adding a page to the start and/or end of the Job's Document and using
>> "overrides" to specify the media source / type for the added banner pages.
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
>>
>> There isn't anything specifically you can do in CUPS for the banners - it
>> will use the same paper/tray settings for the banners as for the rest of
>> the job.
>>
>> There is a job-sheets-col attribute (defined in PWG 5100.3: Production
>> Printing Attributes - Set 1) that provides more control.  At present this
>> attribute is not supported by CUPS.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 5:17 PM, pipitas <pipitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What is the canonical IPP-ish way to request printing of a job-sheet on
>> different media (or media drawn from a different paper tray)?
>>
>> I remember many years ago to have hacked some PostScript files for a big
>> institutional customer who required red separator sheets because thousands
>> of their students shared a few dozen "public" printers: I then equipped the
>> PostScript/banner files with some 'setpagedevice' statements, saved them to
>> /usr/share/cups/banners/ and, presto, whenever such a sheet was requested
>> it printed from the paper tray specified by setpagedevice.
>>
>> Is there an IPP-defined job attribute that lets me order job-sheets to be
>> printed on a specific medium?
>>
>> Now that modern CUPS doesn't by default use banners/job-sheets any more
>> which are PostScript files, what is another valid way to do achieve this
>> with PDF files (or even with application/vnd.cups-banner files)?
>>
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