[MFD] Semantic Model teleconference, 3pm EST Thursday 3/22

[MFD] Semantic Model teleconference, 3pm EST Thursday 3/22

[MFD] Semantic Model teleconference, 3pm EST Thursday 3/22

Ira McDonald blueroofmusic at gmail.com
Mon Mar 19 17:46:55 UTC 2012


Hi,

This needs some major thought and discussion.

The current IETF standards around language tags
allow description of script and many other dimensions
besides "natural language" (US English).

I'm not sure of the standardization status of language
tags on MIME types, but the PWG *definitely* should
NOT be inventing this home brew.

I'd rather use first class attributes for complex language,
script, transliteration, etc. transformations.

We need advice here from the IETF LTRU (Language
Tag Registry Update) WG chairs and editors.

There IS work-in-progress in IETF LTRU WG for
language tag translation-request extensions.

MIME Types proper should be reserved for document
formats, NOT for document metadata (like language
tags).

Cheers,
- Ira


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On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:

> Randy,
>
> MIME media types can include parameters; we'd just need to extend the
> current definitions of the types we care about to include a "language"
> parameter.
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Randy Turner wrote:
>
> How would I specify I wanted a document transformed from UK English to
> French using Mime types ?
>
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2012, at 8:52 AM, "Zehler, Peter" <Peter.Zehler at xerox.com>
> wrote:
>
> Randy,****
>
> The rationale for these ops is to enumerate the possible "from" and "to"
> formats for transformations.  To resolve the "from" and "to" mapping issue
> one side of the mapping is fixed based on the op.  The formats are defined
> as Mime types reusing the definition from print and scan.  I am unaware of
> any constraints as to what a “format” can be since the Mime value is
> qualified.  The DocumentFormatWKV simple type (PwgWellKnownValues.xsd) has
> some values listed.  I expect the list to be expanded during the Transform
> Service discussions.  The “MimeExtensionPattern” permits any valid Mime
> value to be used as well.****
>
> Pete****
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> *From:* Randy Turner [mailto:rturner at amalfisystems.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 19, 2012 9:41 AM
> *To:* Zehler, Peter
> *Cc:* <mfd at pwg.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [MFD] Semantic Model teleconference, 3pm EST Thursday 3/22*
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> Hi Pete****
>
> Regarding the "ListInputFormat/ListOutputFormat" operations in the
> transform service definition...is the rationale for these ops to enumerate
> the possible "from" and "to" formats for transformations?****
>
> ** **
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> If so, where are these formats defined? And are any constraints as to what
> a "format" can be?****
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> ** **
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> Thanks****
>
> Randy****
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> On Mar 19, 2012, at 4:11 AM, "Zehler, Peter" <Peter.Zehler at xerox.com>
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