[MFD] RE: [IPP] Questions for the stable draft of IPP FaxOut

[MFD] RE: [IPP] Questions for the stable draft of IPP FaxOut

[MFD] RE: [IPP] Questions for the stable draft of IPP FaxOut

William A Wagner wamwagner at comcast.net
Wed Apr 17 17:43:31 UTC 2013


Mike,

Out of curiosity, it would seem possible (and perhaps it already exists) for
a cell phone to use its camera as a scanner and to implement Scan and/or
FaxOut services, perhaps even using an IPP binding.  Should we be
considering that?
Thanks,
Bill Wagner

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet at apple.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:53 PM
To: William A Wagner
Cc: munehisa.matsuda at brother.co.jp; ipp at pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] Questions for the stable draft of IPP FaxOut

Bill,

On 2013-04-17, at 12:33 PM, William A Wagner <wamwagner at comcast.net> wrote:
> I seem to recall that we decided to make Send-Hardcopy-Document 
> optional or conditionally mandatory (if there is a scan capability) 
> and were going to ask for an errata on the SM FaxOut spec.

Correct.  Apologies if I wasn't clear below, but Send-Hardcopy-Document is
only required for printers with scanners.


> 
> Bill W.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipp-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Sweet
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:21 PM
> To: munehisa.matsuda at brother.co.jp
> Cc: ipp at pwg.org
> Subject: Re: [IPP] Questions for the stable draft of IPP FaxOut
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 2013-04-17, at 4:24 AM, munehisa.matsuda at brother.co.jp wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> We have two questions regarding the stable draft of IPP FaxOut.
>> 
>> 1. Send-Hardcopy-Document:
>> Since we cannot imagine the usage, we do not understand why this 
>> operation
> MUST be supported.
>> So could you tell us the use case of the Send-Hardcopy-Document
operation?
>> If this operation is NOT critical for IPP FaxOut, we suggest to 
>> change it
> to be "optional" for implementing easily.
> 
> If you have a scan head on your MFP then users will want to be able to 
> fax documents from that scan head.  There are already a lot of mobile 
> applications being provided that serve as alternatives to the 
> printer's own control panel, so this operation would allow those 
> applications to support faxout as well.
> 
> And FWIW, the current wording is based on the intended conformance of 
> the Semantic Model FaxOut spec, which makes the operation required.
> 
>> 2. destination-statuses:
>> We want to clarify which transmission status value should be 
>> specified in
> the "destination-statuses" when a multiple destination job is canceled.
>> Details are described below, but we think it is slightly unclear.
> 
> I'm happy to clarify the text here.
> 
>> "4.1.3 Job Terminating State
>> "The terminating state of an IPP FaxOut Job reflects the absolute 
>> final
> disposition of the Job. Jobs in the 'canceled' state were canceled by 
> a User using the Cancel-Job, Cancel-Jobs, or Cancel-My-Jobs 
> operations, regardless of whether any or all of the Job has been 
> processed or partially transferred to its destination URI(s). The 
> "destination-statuses" Job Description attribute (section 7.3.1) 
> provides detailed information regarding the progress of the job prior to
cancellation."
>> 
>> For example, the job has 5 destinations.
>> The job is canceled when the device is transfering fax document to 
>> 3rd
> destination.
>> ...
>> job-state: canceled
>> destination-statuses:
>> 1. completed
>> 2. completed
>> 3. canceled
>> 4. canceled
>> 5. canceled
>> 
>> Which is correct?
> 
> The latter.
> 
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