From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Mon Jan 7 14:58:52 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:05 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector&Display Mgt WG: NO CALL THIS WEEK Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E535@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> I just got back and won't be able to dig out from under the pile of email for several days yet. Sorry. Talk to you next week. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Next week for sure. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Next week for sure. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Mon Jan 21 18:56:17 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:05 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector&Display Mgt WG: REMINDER OF CONCALL WED-THURS 2008/01/23-34 Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E591@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/01/23-24 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== NOTE THE NEW MEETING TIME: EVERYONE IS ONE HOUR EARLIER NOW! ============================================================== ALSO NOTE THAT MEETINGS ARE WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 Jan 23-24. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 23 Jan 2008, 6 PM - 7 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 23 Jan 2008, 4 PM - 5 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 23 Jan 2008, 7 PM - 8 Tokyo Thursday, 24 Jan 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 24 Jan 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ PLEASE READ THE 2007/11/28 MINUTES ABOUT F2F MEETING DATES! - When can we meet face-to-face and where? - We must meet with the rest of PWG in the near future How do we get to publishing this draft of our work? - What remains to be written - Where to publish - Distribution lists - Avenues for generating publicity - etc. Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. 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Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1740 bytes Desc: image001.gif Url : http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080124/64228716/attachment.gif From kazuyasu.imahashi at jp.sony.com Thu Jan 24 22:44:47 2008 From: kazuyasu.imahashi at jp.sony.com (IMAHASHI) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:05 2009 Subject: PDM> RE: PJLink specification In-Reply-To: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5A5@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> References: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5A5@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Message-ID: Rick-san; I'm sorry that it is not possible to participate in the meeting easily usually. I am a member of PJLink. Please contact me if you tell PJLink something. I do it with pleasure. >Thanks for the pointer, Raymond. I've read the specs, but not very >recently. I don't think we can post their spec on our site due to >copyright and IP considerations. But we can certainly post a pointer. >This message, which I'm sending back thru the reflector (pdm@pwg.org) >will get archived on pwg.org and therefore be available to anyone in the >future. > >For those who don't recognize the name PJLink, this is a spec from the >JBMIA (Japan Business Machines Industry Association) for a simple serial >control command set for projectors. We need to cite this as a related >spec in the introductory material surrounding the projector and display >MIB. > >rick > > >________________________________ > >From: Raymond Rogers [mailto:ReRogers@SYMON.com] >Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 18:44 >To: Landau, Richard >Subject: PJLink specification > > > >If you are interested here is a link to the PJLink specs. We may want >to post this to the FTP site for reference. > >http://pjlink.jbmia.or.jp/english/data/PJLink%20Specifications100_200511 >24.pdf > >Regards, >Raymond Rogers > > > >Symon Communications, Inc. >500 North Central Expressway >Suite 175 >Plano, TX 75074 > >(972)543-9586 >(972)422-1680 fax > >email: rerogers@symon.com >MSN Messenger: rerogers@symon.com >Google Talk: raymond.rogers@gmail.com > >Check it out: www.now-everybody-knows.com > > > > > >Notice of Confidentiality: This transmission contains information that >may be confidential and that may also be privileged. Unless you are the >intended recipient of the message (or authorized to receive it for the >intended recipient) you may not copy, forward, or otherwise use it, or >disclose its contents to anyone else. If you have received this >transmission in error, please notify us immediately and delete it from >your system. -- Kazuyasu Imahashi Display Platform Design Section, Display Business Division B2B Solutions Business Group, Sony Corporation Atsugi Tec. 4-14-1 Asahi-cho, Atsugi-shi, Kanagawa, 243-0014 Japan Tel +81 46 202 7798 From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Mon Jan 28 18:32:35 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:05 2009 Subject: PDM> RE: PJLink specification In-Reply-To: References: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5A5@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5BE@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Thanks for your offer of help. We can get the v1 spec directly from the PJLink web site. Is there a new version of the spec under discussion? rick -----Original Message----- From: IMAHASHI [mailto:kazuyasu.imahashi@jp.sony.com] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 21:45 To: Landau, Richard Cc: ReRogers@SYMON.com; pdm@pwg.org Subject: Re: PDM> RE: PJLink specification Rick-san; I'm sorry that it is not possible to participate in the meeting easily usually. I am a member of PJLink. Please contact me if you tell PJLink something. I do it with pleasure. >Thanks for the pointer, Raymond. I've read the specs, but not very >recently. I don't think we can post their spec on our site due to >copyright and IP considerations. But we can certainly post a pointer. >This message, which I'm sending back thru the reflector (pdm@pwg.org) >will get archived on pwg.org and therefore be available to anyone in >the future. > >For those who don't recognize the name PJLink, this is a spec from the >JBMIA (Japan Business Machines Industry Association) for a simple >serial control command set for projectors. We need to cite this as a >related spec in the introductory material surrounding the projector and >display MIB. > >rick > > >________________________________ > >From: Raymond Rogers [mailto:ReRogers@SYMON.com] >Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 18:44 >To: Landau, Richard >Subject: PJLink specification > > > >If you are interested here is a link to the PJLink specs. We may want >to post this to the FTP site for reference. > >http://pjlink.jbmia.or.jp/english/data/PJLink%20Specifications100_20051 >1 >24.pdf > >Regards, >Raymond Rogers > > > >Symon Communications, Inc. >500 North Central Expressway >Suite 175 >Plano, TX 75074 > >(972)543-9586 >(972)422-1680 fax > >email: rerogers@symon.com MSN Messenger: >rerogers@symon.com Google Talk: raymond.rogers@gmail.com > >Check it out: www.now-everybody-knows.com > > > > > >Notice of Confidentiality: This transmission contains information that >may be confidential and that may also be privileged. Unless you are the >intended recipient of the message (or authorized to receive it for the >intended recipient) you may not copy, forward, or otherwise use it, or >disclose its contents to anyone else. If you have received this >transmission in error, please notify us immediately and delete it from >your system. -- Kazuyasu Imahashi Display Platform Design Section, Display Business Division B2B Solutions Business Group, Sony Corporation Atsugi Tec. 4-14-1 Asahi-cho, Atsugi-shi, Kanagawa, 243-0014 Japan Tel +81 46 202 7798 From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Wed Jan 30 14:33:56 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:05 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector&Display Mgt WG: Reminder of CONCALL TODAY Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5D5@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/01/30-31 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== NOTE THE NEW MEETING TIME: EVERYONE IS ONE HOUR EARLIER NOW! ============================================================== ALSO NOTE THAT MEETINGS ARE WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 Jan 30-31. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 30 Jan 2008, 6 PM - 7 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 30 Jan 2008, 4 PM - 5 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 30 Jan 2008, 7 PM - 8 Tokyo Thursday, 31 Jan 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 31 Jan 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Progress in writing the material for the document to surround the MIB. - Terminology (Nick) - Overview (Rick) - Structure (Rick) - Diagram (Lee) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080130/89e7c955/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Wed Jan 30 20:24:30 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:05 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector&Display Mgt WG: new docs in wd area of FTP Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5DD@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Posted a couple draft docs: 1. The PWG-published MIB doc for the Counter MIB, with the title changed. This is informative just for the outline and the styles and contents of the various sections that we need to replace. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib-00-20080130.doc 2. A very, very brief first draft of a couple of the sections to be added to doc #1 above. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/Draft-SectionsToBeInsertedInMibDoc-01.d oc Contributors will be extremely welcome. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080130/6c0e3396/attachment.html From blueroofmusic at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 11:14:23 2008 From: blueroofmusic at gmail.com (Ira McDonald) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:05 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector&Display Mgt WG: new docs in wd area of FTP In-Reply-To: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5DD@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> References: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5DD@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Message-ID: Hi, Reminder to all - there is a set of detailed naming conventions for PWG documents in the PWG Namespace Policy at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/informational/pwg-namespace-policy.txt Specifically, working drafts do NOT contain a draft version in their filename - their eight-digit trailing date is unique itself. So, the correct filename for working drafts of the PDM MIB is: tp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-yyyymmdd.doc Note the three parts "wd" (class), "pdmmib10" (document name), and "date". There should NOT be any other infixed information. Cheers, - Ira On Jan 30, 2008 8:24 PM, wrote: > > > > Posted a couple draft docs: > > 1. The PWG-published MIB doc for the Counter MIB, with the title changed. > This is informative just for the outline and the styles and contents of the > various sections that we need to replace. > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib-00-20080130.doc > > 2. A very, very brief first draft of a couple of the sections to be added > to doc #1 above. > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/Draft-SectionsToBeInsertedInMibDoc-01.doc > > Contributors will be extremely welcome. > > rick > ---------------------- > Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office > +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Thu Jan 31 11:47:40 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:05 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector&Display Mgt WG: new docs in wd area of FTP In-Reply-To: References: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5DD@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5DF@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Name fixed. New doc on ftp. rick -----Original Message----- From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:14 To: Landau, Richard; Ira McDonald Cc: pdm@pwg.org Subject: Re: PDM> Projector&Display Mgt WG: new docs in wd area of FTP Hi, Reminder to all - there is a set of detailed naming conventions for PWG documents in the PWG Namespace Policy at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/informational/pwg-namespace-policy.txt Specifically, working drafts do NOT contain a draft version in their filename - their eight-digit trailing date is unique itself. So, the correct filename for working drafts of the PDM MIB is: tp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-yyyymmdd.doc Note the three parts "wd" (class), "pdmmib10" (document name), and "date". There should NOT be any other infixed information. Cheers, - Ira On Jan 30, 2008 8:24 PM, wrote: > > > > Posted a couple draft docs: > > 1. The PWG-published MIB doc for the Counter MIB, with the title changed. > This is informative just for the outline and the styles and contents > of the various sections that we need to replace. > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib-00-20080130.doc > > 2. A very, very brief first draft of a couple of the sections to be > added to doc #1 above. > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/Draft-SectionsToBeInsertedInMibDoc-01 > .doc > > Contributors will be extremely welcome. > > rick > ---------------------- > Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO > Office > +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From kazuyasu.imahashi at jp.sony.com Mon Feb 4 05:25:45 2008 From: kazuyasu.imahashi at jp.sony.com (IMAHASHI) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:05 2009 Subject: PDM> RE: PJLink specification In-Reply-To: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5BE@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> References: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5A5@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5BE@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Message-ID: Only class only 1 is decided to PJLink. Class 2 is not discussed. I do not think making perhaps. Information that exists in HP is all information that can be disclosed. The majority of the projector manufacturer in Japan support this. ???<8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E5BE@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com>?? >Thanks for your offer of help. We can get the v1 spec directly from the >PJLink web site. Is there a new version of the spec under discussion? > >rick > > >-----Original Message----- >From: IMAHASHI [mailto:kazuyasu.imahashi@jp.sony.com] >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 21:45 >To: Landau, Richard >Cc: ReRogers@SYMON.com; pdm@pwg.org >Subject: Re: PDM> RE: PJLink specification > >Rick-san; > >I'm sorry that it is not possible to participate in the meeting easily >usually. >I am a member of PJLink. Please contact me if you tell PJLink >something. I do it with pleasure. > > >>Thanks for the pointer, Raymond. I've read the specs, but not very >>recently. I don't think we can post their spec on our site due to >>copyright and IP considerations. But we can certainly post a pointer. >>This message, which I'm sending back thru the reflector (pdm@pwg.org) >>will get archived on pwg.org and therefore be available to anyone in >>the future. >> >>For those who don't recognize the name PJLink, this is a spec from the >>JBMIA (Japan Business Machines Industry Association) for a simple >>serial control command set for projectors. We need to cite this as a >>related spec in the introductory material surrounding the projector and > >>display MIB. >> >>rick >> >> >>________________________________ >> >>From: Raymond Rogers [mailto:ReRogers@SYMON.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 18:44 >>To: Landau, Richard >>Subject: PJLink specification >> >> >> >>If you are interested here is a link to the PJLink specs. We may want >>to post this to the FTP site for reference. >> >>http://pjlink.jbmia.or.jp/english/data/PJLink%20Specifications100_20051 >>1 >>24.pdf >> >>Regards, >>Raymond Rogers >> >> >> >>Symon Communications, Inc. >>500 North Central Expressway >>Suite 175 >>Plano, TX 75074 >> >>(972)543-9586 >>(972)422-1680 fax >> >>email: rerogers@symon.com MSN Messenger: >>rerogers@symon.com Google Talk: raymond.rogers@gmail.com >> >>Check it out: www.now-everybody-knows.com >> >> >> >> >> >>Notice of Confidentiality: This transmission contains information that >>may be confidential and that may also be privileged. Unless you are the > >>intended recipient of the message (or authorized to receive it for the >>intended recipient) you may not copy, forward, or otherwise use it, or >>disclose its contents to anyone else. 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Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 13 Feb 2008, 6 PM - 7 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 13 Feb 2008, 4 PM - 5 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 13 Feb 2008, 7 PM - 8 Tokyo Thursday, 14 Feb 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 14 Feb 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 16-18, Phoenix, Arizona - Collocated with PWG meetings - Check pwg.org for details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html Progress in writing the material for the document to surround the MIB. - Terminology (Nick) - Overview (Rick) - Structure (Rick) - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. 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Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 20 Feb 2008, 6 PM - 7 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 20 Feb 2008, 4 PM - 5 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 20 Feb 2008, 7 PM - 8 Tokyo Thursday, 21 Feb 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 21 Feb 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 16-18, Phoenix, Arizona - Collocated with PWG meetings - Check pwg.org for details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html Review PDM MIB draft working doc, ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080218.doc Progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - Terminology (Nick) - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080218/4cfb6c9c/attachment.html From blueroofmusic at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 10:57:39 2008 From: blueroofmusic at gmail.com (Ira McDonald) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:05 2009 Subject: PDM> DRAFT of PDM MIB doc with draft intro text, too. In-Reply-To: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E647@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> References: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E647@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Message-ID: Hi, Converted to PDF with line numbers and modification bubbles on right. Please use *this* version for comments. Cheers, - Ira On Feb 18, 2008 7:58 PM, wrote: > > > > New on the FTP site. > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080218.doc > > Please review before meeting Wednesday/Thursday. Thanks. > > rick > ---------------------- > Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office > +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Tue Feb 19 18:41:44 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:05 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector&Display: posted MINUTES of last call on FTP Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E65E@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> An abbreviated call, but we did review some work. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/minutes/minutes-20080213.doc rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 27 Feb 2008, 6 PM - 7 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 27 Feb 2008, 4 PM - 5 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 27 Feb 2008, 7 PM - 8 Tokyo Thursday, 28 Feb 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 28 Feb 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 15-17, Phoenix, Arizona - Collocated with PWG meetings - Check pwg.org for details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html Review PDM MIB draft working doc, if a new version is posted. Discuss strategy for dealing with mandatory vs optional groups and properties. Please read the minutes of last week's meeting for background. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/minutes/minutes-20080220.doc Progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - Terminology (Nick) - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. 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Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 05 Mar 2008, 6 PM - 7 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 05 Mar 2008, 4 PM - 5 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 05 Mar 2008, 7 PM - 8 Tokyo Thursday, 06 Mar 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 06 Mar 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 15-17, Phoenix, Arizona; meetings start noon Tuesday. - Collocated with PWG meetings. - Joint meeting with PWG Wednesday; PDM meetings Tues and Thurs. - Check pwg.org for hotel and registration details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html Review PDM MIB draft working doc, if a new version is posted. Discuss strategy for dealing with mandatory vs optional groups and properties. (The audience for this discussion was rather small last week. Repeat if necessary.) See the slides ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/MandatoryVsOptionalProperties-02.ppt Progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - Terminology (Nick) - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. 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You will find, in particular, that there is, finally, I think, a consistent philosophy surrounding the availability of data in powersave and standby states. The result, I'm sorry to report, differs from what we have written in the abstract XML files, so that some repairs will ne necessary. Please read these sections so we can discuss them in detail. Thanks. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 12 Mar 2008, 7 PM - 8 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 12 Mar 2008, 5 PM - 6 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 12 Mar 2008, 8 PM - 8 Tokyo Thursday, 13 Mar 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 13 Mar 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 15-17, Phoenix, Arizona; meetings start noon Tuesday. - Check pwg.org for hotel and registration details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html - Also check the PDM wiki site for more information and schedule. http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Review PDM MIB draft working doc. A new version is posted containing several new sections, particularly dealing with power states and the availability of data in reduced power states. Progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - More Terminology (Nick) - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080310/45223440/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Tue Mar 18 17:24:26 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector&Display Mgt WG: REMINDER OF CONCALL Wed-Thurs March 19-20 Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E730@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/03/19-20 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME HAS STARTED IN THE UNITED STATES. MEETINGS ARE ONE HOUR LATER IN THE U.S. AS A RESULT!!! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 Mar 19-20. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 19 Mar 2008, 7 PM - 8 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 19 Mar 2008, 5 PM - 6 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 19 Mar 2008, 8 PM - 9 Tokyo Thursday, 20 Mar 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 20 Mar 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Same agenda as last week, but hope to get more and different people this week to take a look at the document. Please read it and comment on it. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080310a-changebars.pdf Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 15-17, Phoenix, Arizona; meetings start noon Tuesday. - Check pwg.org for hotel and registration details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html - Also check the PDM wiki site for more information and detailed schedule. http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Review PDM MIB draft working doc. A new version is posted containing several new sections, particularly dealing with power states and the availability of data in reduced power states. Progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - More Terminology (Nick) - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080318/a7f664c6/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Tue Mar 18 17:31:40 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Yes meeting on Wed-Thurs 3/19-20. No meeting on 3/26-27 Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E731@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> There will be a call this week (tomorrow), but not the following week. Tnx. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080318/9b403e51/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Mon Mar 31 17:52:05 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> REMINDER OF CONCALL Wed-Thurs, Apr 02-03 Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E781@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/04/02-03 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME HAS STARTED IN THE UNITED STATES. MEETINGS ARE ONE HOUR LATER IN THE U.S. AS A RESULT!!! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 Apr 02-03. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 02 Apr 2008, 7 PM - 8 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 02 Apr 2008, 5 PM - 6 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 02 Apr 2008, 8 PM - 9 Tokyo Thursday, 03 Apr 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 03 Apr 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Review PDM MIB draft working doc line by line. Note all changes needed to MIB (to the underlying XML files) or to the text of the document. A new version is posted containing several new sections, particularly dealing with power states and the availability of data in reduced power states. Progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - More Terminology (Nick) - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. Next F2F Meeting ---- --- ------- Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 15-17, Phoenix, Arizona; meetings start noon Tuesday. - Check pwg.org for hotel and registration details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html - Also check the PDM wiki site for more information and detailed schedule. http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080409/70727268/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Wed Apr 9 18:29:30 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> FW: REMINDER OF CONCALL TODAY - 2008 April 09-10 Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E7DA@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/04/09-10 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME HAS STARTED IN THE UNITED STATES. MEETINGS ARE ONE HOUR LATER IN THE U.S. AS A RESULT!!! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 Apr 09-10. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 09 Apr 2008, 7 PM - 8 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 09 Apr 2008, 5 PM - 6 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 09 Apr 2008, 8 PM - 9 Tokyo Thursday, 10 Apr 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 10 Apr 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Review PDM MIB draft working doc line by line. Note all changes needed to MIB (to the underlying XML files) or to the text of the document. A new version is posted containing several new sections, particularly dealing with power states and the availability of data in reduced power states. (We had a long discussion of power states last week, and I need to write up some additional explanatory material as a result of those talks.) Progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - More Terminology (Nick) - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. Next F2F Meeting ---- --- ------- Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 15-17, Phoenix, Arizona; meetings start noon Tuesday. - Check pwg.org for hotel and registration details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html - Also check the PDM wiki site for more information and detailed schedule. http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM rick > ---------------------- > Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO > Office > +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080409/977a3485/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Wed Apr 9 19:53:45 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Minutes of concall 20080402 posted. Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E7DB@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/minutes/minutes-20080402.doc rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080409/ab12894b/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Tue Apr 15 12:47:54 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:46:56 -0500 Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E7FD@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> A conference line will be open to the PDM F2F meetings. We will use the normal number for Tuesday and Thursday. The Wednesday afternoon meeting will use the normal PWG number, below, instead of the PDM number. Note that the meeting times given in the wiki page are PACIFIC TIME !!! That is three hours earlier than Eastern time. (Arizona is on Mountain Standard Time; they don't do daylight saving time here.) http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM+April+2008+F2FAgenda+Phoenix - Tues PM - Wed PM in the PWG room. Different call-in number, the normal PWG one in this case. 1-866-365-4406 code 2635888# - Thurs AM. Morning for sure. If there are enough people left, we will go all day. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080415/3715896e/attachment.html From blueroofmusic at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 23:02:30 2008 From: blueroofmusic at gmail.com (Ira McDonald) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:46:56 -0500 [w/ call-in number] Message-ID: Hi Rick, Neither your message below, nor the Wiki page lists "the normal PDM number". Here it is, for all concerned: Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Cheers, - Ira On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:47 PM, wrote: > > > > A conference line will be open to the PDM F2F meetings. We will use the > normal number for Tuesday and Thursday. The Wednesday afternoon meeting > will use the normal PWG number, below, instead of the PDM number. > > Note that the meeting times given in the wiki page are PACIFIC TIME !!! > That is three hours earlier than Eastern time. (Arizona is on Mountain > Standard Time; they don't do daylight saving time here.) > > http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM+April+2008+F2FAgenda+Phoenix > - Tues PM > - Wed PM in the PWG room. Different call-in number, the normal PWG one in > this case. 1-866-365-4406 code 2635888# > - Thurs AM. Morning for sure. If there are enough people left, we will go > all day. > > rick > ---------------------- > Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office > +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Thu Apr 17 14:14:55 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> ToDo list for review and expansion. Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E807@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- Improvements needed in XSL translations from group XMLs to MIBs RBLandau 20080310 20080310 - Power, Description of TargetState, what noTransition is used for, that is, to declare that a state exists but you can't request a transition out of it, such as warming or cooling. - Controller, PostCode avail OffReadOnly, not writable. - LightSource: doesn't have full FRU properties. - many groups: Availability for OffReadOnly and OffReadWrite need lots of work. - General: LanguageTagSNMP shorten to TagSNMP. - Filter: OnReadOnly typo. 20080317 - For objects not implemented, it might be more useful to have an in-band null value that means "not implemented," as -2 does in some printer properties. If a zero value could be confused with a zero counter, an in-band NYI value will de-confuse applications. 20080402 - Power: pdmPowerTransitionTime needs a default value that means "unknown." 20080408 - All FRUs: for projectors that don't have local datetime, the ReplaceTime string should probably be writable to the user, or there should be a parallel string available for manual entry. - DisplaySetting: if the DisplaySetAffectsAll property is false, that is, it's specific to an input, which input? DisplaySetInputName should be an index into the Connector table. - DisplaySetting: ColorTemp says "a bunch of standard settings," a trifle informally. - Fan, Filter, TempSensor, TempSwitch: needs Age to go with ReplacementInterval, maybe. If user fills in ReplacementTime, then it's sort of okay not to have time-on age. NO, DON'T DO THIS. Let the user consider the lamp age to be the age measurement for these other parts, too. If these others are replaced out of cycle w.r.t. the lamp(s), then the sys mgr should make a note, perhaps in the writable date field. - All FRUs: Add description that says why the ReplacementPartNumbers and URLs tend to be writable: so the vendor can update them, or the user can, without having to upgrade the firmware. 20080415 Do Visio pictures of projector architecture. From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Mon Apr 21 16:15:43 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Should PDM join PWG f2f meeting in Feb. 2009 (next year) in Hawaii? Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E81F@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Once a year, PWG holds a meeting situated for the convenience of Asian members, usually in Hawaii. The PWG meeting for February 2009 is going to be in Hawaii, at a reasonable hotel ($200/night) on the big island. The meeting will be three days during the week of Feb 09-13, most likely Monday-Wednesday. Last year at the meeting in Hawaii, we had a number of representatives that do not normally attend from Asian vendors. In the projector and display business, we would hope to get some representatives from Japan, Singapore, Taiwan, and China. If PDM joins to have a face-to-face meeting with PWG, is it likely that will you attend? This is not asking for a commitment to attend, only the likelihood that you would attend at that location and time. Please reply. Thanks. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080423/17eaf5fd/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Mon Apr 28 15:10:10 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector & Display Mgt WG: REMINDER OF CONCALL TODAY Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E85E@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/04/30 - 05/01 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME IS IN EFFECT IN THE UNITED STATES. MEETINGS ARE ONE HOUR LATER IN THE U.S. AS A RESULT!!! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 Apr 30 - May 01. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 30 Apr 2008, 7 PM - 8 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 30 Apr 2008, 5 PM - 6 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 30 Apr 2008, 8 PM - 9 Tokyo Thursday, 01 May 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 01 May 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Go over notes from the review at the F2F meeting. We got most of the way through the explanatory text of the document. Several sections will need surgery as a result of the -- useful! -- comments. Review the ToDo list changes pending for the technical MIB text itself. (As always, changes will be made in the XML text and then recompiled into a new MIB.) Progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - More Terminology (Nick) - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. Next F2F Meeting ---- --- ------- Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 15-17, Phoenix, Arizona; meetings start noon Tuesday. - Check pwg.org for hotel and registration details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html - Also check the PDM wiki site for more information and detailed schedule. http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, - Ira On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:10 PM, wrote: > > > > P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G > > Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call > > REMINDER of Concall 2008/04/30 - 05/01 > -------- -- ------- ------------- > > ============================================================== > DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME IS IN EFFECT IN THE UNITED STATES. > MEETINGS ARE ONE HOUR LATER IN THE U.S. AS A RESULT!!! > ============================================================== > > The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on > Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 Apr 30 - May 01. > > Time: > > US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 30 Apr 2008, 7 PM - 8 > US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 30 Apr 2008, 5 PM - 6 > US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 30 Apr 2008, 8 PM - 9 > Tokyo Thursday, 01 May 2008, 9 AM - 10 > Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 01 May 2008, 8 AM - 9 > > > Agenda: > ------ > > Go over notes from the review at the F2F meeting. We got most of the way > through the explanatory text of the document. Several sections will need > surgery as a result of the -- useful! -- comments. > > Review the ToDo list changes pending for the technical MIB text itself. (As > always, changes will be made in the XML text and then recompiled into a new > MIB.) > > Progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the > MIB. > - More Terminology (Nick) > - IANA considerations (Ira) > - Internationalization (Ira) > - Security (Ira) > > > Telephone bridge details: > --------- ------ ------- > - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 > - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 > - Participant passcode 3524129 # > > Live Meeting URL: > ---- ------- --- > https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+Stds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG > Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants > only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is > in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" > > File storage area on PWG web site: > ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm > > PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: > --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- > http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM > Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see > something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have > the privilege to edit the wiki. > > Next F2F Meeting > ---- --- ------- > Definite date for next F2F meeting: > - April 15-17, Phoenix, Arizona; meetings start noon Tuesday. > - Check pwg.org for hotel and registration details, specifically > http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html > - Also check the PDM wiki site for more information and detailed schedule. > http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM > > > rick > ---------------------- > Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office > +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Wed Apr 30 18:48:13 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> to-do list uploaded for today's concall Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E87E@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/objects/ToDo.txt rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080520/d33353dc/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Tue May 27 15:01:45 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector & Display Mgt WG: REMINDER OF CONCALL THIS WEEK, Wed-Thurs, May 28-29. Please call in! Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E8D4@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/05/28-29 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME IS IN EFFECT IN THE UNITED STATES. MEETINGS ARE ONE HOUR LATER IN THE U.S. AS A RESULT!!! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 May 28-29. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 28 May 2008, 7 PM - 8 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 28 May 2008, 5 PM - 6 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 28 May 2008, 8 PM - 9 Tokyo Thursday, 29 May 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 29 May 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ InfoComm is June 18-20! That is only FOUR WEEKS AWAY! We have to move quickly to have something presentable for distribution then. Review progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - New Power State management sections (Rick) - More Terminology (Nick) - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Review the ToDo list changes pending for the technical MIB text itself. (As always, changes will be made in the XML text and then recompiled into a new MIB.) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. Next F2F Meeting ---- --- ------- Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 15-17, Phoenix, Arizona; meetings start noon Tuesday. - Check pwg.org for hotel and registration details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html - Also check the PDM wiki site for more information and detailed schedule. http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080527/c769ad84/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Wed May 28 19:36:20 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector & Display Mgt WG: REMINDER OF CONCALL TODAY! Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E8E2@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> ________________________________ From: owner-pdm@pwg.org [mailto:owner-pdm@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Richard_Landau@Dell.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 14:02 To: pdm@pwg.org Subject: PDM> Projector & Display Mgt WG: REMINDER OF CONCALL THIS WEEK, Wed-Thurs, May 28-29. Please call in! P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/05/28-29 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME IS IN EFFECT IN THE UNITED STATES. MEETINGS ARE ONE HOUR LATER IN THE U.S. AS A RESULT!!! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 May 28-29. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 28 May 2008, 7 PM - 8 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 28 May 2008, 5 PM - 6 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 28 May 2008, 8 PM - 9 Tokyo Thursday, 29 May 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 29 May 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ InfoComm is June 18-20! That is only FOUR WEEKS AWAY! We have to move quickly to have something presentable for distribution then. Review progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - New Power State management sections (Rick) - More Terminology (Nick) - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Review the ToDo list changes pending for the technical MIB text itself. (As always, changes will be made in the XML text and then recompiled into a new MIB.) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. Next F2F Meeting ---- --- ------- Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 15-17, Phoenix, Arizona; meetings start noon Tuesday. - Check pwg.org for hotel and registration details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html - Also check the PDM wiki site for more information and detailed schedule. http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080528/fc7987db/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Wed May 28 19:52:14 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Posted new version of MIB doc on FTP Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E8E3@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Just posted a new version of the MIB doc. This version enbodies almost all the comments from the f2f meeting in April, including large new sections with examples of power state management. PLEASE read this draft critically. And soon. InfoComm is getting very, very close, and we need to have a plausible draft to give out to people. And we need to have time to produce copies on CDs and paper. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080527b.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080527b-changebars.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080527b.doc Thanks. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080528/7ecc5705/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Mon Jun 2 19:13:09 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector & Display Mgt WG: REMINDER OF CONCALL THIS WEEK Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E902@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/06/03-04 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME IS IN EFFECT IN THE UNITED STATES. MEETINGS ARE ONE HOUR LATER IN THE U.S. AS A RESULT!!! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 June 03-04. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 03 May 2008, 7 PM - 8 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 03 May 2008, 5 PM - 6 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 03 May 2008, 8 PM - 9 Tokyo Thursday, 04 May 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 04 May 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ InfoComm is June 18-20! That is only THREE WEEKS AWAY! We have to move quickly to have something presentable for distribution then. Review progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - Further changes suggested last week - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Review progress in correcting minor problems in the XMLs. Review the ToDo list changes pending for the technical MIB text itself. (As always, changes will be made in the XML text and then recompiled into a new MIB.) Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. Next F2F Meeting ---- --- ------- Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 15-17, Phoenix, Arizona; meetings start noon Tuesday. - Check pwg.org for hotel and registration details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html - Also check the PDM wiki site for more information and detailed schedule. http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080604/1de8cb58/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Wed Jun 11 00:46:07 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> New MIB doc posted: release candidate for InfoComm! Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E949@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> New files in the PDM area. Some necessary editing was done in the document. And some small but substantive changes were made to the XMLs, so the MIB was recompiled and replaced in the doc. 1. in ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/ wd-pdmmib10-20080610.pdf wd-pdmmib10-20080610-changebars.pdf wd-pdmmib10-20080610.doc and wd-pdmmib10-20080610-tc.mib wd-pdmmib10-20080610-mib.mib wd-pdmmib10-20080610.mib 2. in ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/objects/ ToDo.txt Power_v15.xml DisplaySet_v18.xml LightSource_v10.xml Connector_v08.xml rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080610/326e91a0/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Wed Jun 11 00:47:45 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector & Display Mgt WG: LAST CONCALL BEFORE THE INFOCOMM SHOW IS TODAY! PLEASE JOIN THE CALL! Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E94A@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/06/11-12 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME IS IN EFFECT IN THE UNITED STATES. MEETINGS ARE ONE HOUR LATER IN THE U.S. AS A RESULT!!! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 June 11-12. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 11 May 2008, 7 PM - 8 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 11 May 2008, 5 PM - 6 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 11 May 2008, 8 PM - 9 Tokyo Thursday, 12 May 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 12 May 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ InfoComm is June 18-20! That is NEXT WEEK! This is our last call before the show. We have to move quickly to have something presentable for distribution then. There is a new MIB doc containing new MIB text! ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080610.pdf and changebars and doc versions. The MIB text files are also there under the names ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080610-tc.mib and ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080610-mib.mib Review changes to correct minor problems in the XMLs. Review progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - Further changes suggested last week - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Review the few remaining items on the ToDo list. The ToDo list is almost done at this point. Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. Next F2F Meeting ---- --- ------- Definite date for next F2F meeting: - April 15-17, Phoenix, Arizona; meetings start noon Tuesday. - Check pwg.org for hotel and registration details, specifically http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html - Also check the PDM wiki site for more information and detailed schedule. http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080610/9ee037aa/attachment.html From glen.petrie at eitc.epson.com Wed Jun 18 17:25:08 2008 From: glen.petrie at eitc.epson.com (Petrie, Glen) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> New MIB doc posted: release candidate for InfoComm! Message-ID: I have reviewed the MIB specification document. May comment are in the file - wd-pdmmib10-20080618p-glen.doc please accept or reject any of my comments and/or suggested changes glen ________________________________ From: owner-pdm@pwg.org [mailto:owner-pdm@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Richard_Landau@Dell.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:46 PM To: pdm@pwg.org Subject: PDM> New MIB doc posted: release candidate for InfoComm! New files in the PDM area. Some necessary editing was done in the document. And some small but substantive changes were made to the XMLs, so the MIB was recompiled and replaced in the doc. 1. in ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/ wd-pdmmib10-20080610.pdf wd-pdmmib10-20080610-changebars.pdf wd-pdmmib10-20080610.doc and wd-pdmmib10-20080610-tc.mib wd-pdmmib10-20080610-mib.mib wd-pdmmib10-20080610.mib 2. in ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/objects/ ToDo.txt Power_v15.xml DisplaySet_v18.xml LightSource_v10.xml Connector_v08.xml rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080618/c01f9f26/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Wed Jun 25 09:53:57 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Status slides for InfoComm Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E98B@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Some status summary slides that I did for the InfoComm package. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/slides/ProjectorAndDisplayManagement_statu s_200806_v01.pdf rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080625/b5ab30f2/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Wed Jun 25 09:58:51 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> No concall today Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E98C@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Still recovering from InfoComm. Will report on contacts at InfoComm next meeting: July 2-3. rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080625/9e89f1f7/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Thu Jun 26 18:58:12 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> New MIB doc posted: release candidate for InfoComm! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E99C@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Thanks, Glen. I didn't get any of these into the doc for InfoComm, but I will check them all for the next version. rick ________________________________ From: Petrie, Glen [mailto:glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 16:25 To: Landau, Richard; pdm@pwg.org Subject: RE: PDM> New MIB doc posted: release candidate for InfoComm! I have reviewed the MIB specification document. May comment are in the file - wd-pdmmib10-20080618p-glen.doc please accept or reject any of my comments and/or suggested changes glen ________________________________ From: owner-pdm@pwg.org [mailto:owner-pdm@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Richard_Landau@Dell.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:46 PM To: pdm@pwg.org Subject: PDM> New MIB doc posted: release candidate for InfoComm! New files in the PDM area. Some necessary editing was done in the document. And some small but substantive changes were made to the XMLs, so the MIB was recompiled and replaced in the doc. 1. in ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/ wd-pdmmib10-20080610.pdf wd-pdmmib10-20080610-changebars.pdf wd-pdmmib10-20080610.doc and wd-pdmmib10-20080610-tc.mib wd-pdmmib10-20080610-mib.mib wd-pdmmib10-20080610.mib 2. in ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/objects/ ToDo.txt Power_v15.xml DisplaySet_v18.xml LightSource_v10.xml Connector_v08.xml rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080626/22e2346d/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Tue Jul 1 18:15:30 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector&Display Mgt WG: REMINDER OF CONCALL THIS WEEK, Wed-Thurs July 02-03 Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FCC7E9C9@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/07/02-03 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME IS IN EFFECT IN THE UNITED STATES. MEETINGS ARE ONE HOUR LATER IN THE U.S. AS A RESULT!!! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 July 02-03. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 02 July 2008, 7 PM - 8 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 02 July 2008, 5 PM - 6 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 02 July 2008, 8 PM - 9 Tokyo Thursday, 03 July 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 03 July 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Topic: What we saw/heard/learned at InfoComm! I talked to twenty different vendors and hope to get some of them involved here. There is a new MIB doc containing new MIB text! ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080613.pdf The MIB text files are also there under the names ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080613-tc.mib and ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080613-mib.mib Review changes to correct minor problems in the XMLs. Review progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - Further changes suggested last week - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Review the few remaining items on the ToDo list. The ToDo list is almost done at this point. Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. Next F2F Meeting ---- --- ------- Definite date for next F2F meeting? There is no definite date yet. - Check the PDM wiki site for more information and detailed schedule. http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-32, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080701/a36eb1b6/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Mon Jul 28 18:27:35 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector & Display Management WG: REMINDER OF CONCALL Wed-Thurs 7/30-31. Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FC0181E7A5@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/07/30-31 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME IS IN EFFECT IN THE UNITED STATES. MEETINGS ARE ONE HOUR LATER IN THE U.S. AS A RESULT!!! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 July 30-31. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 30 July 2008, 7 PM - 8 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 30 July 2008, 5 PM - 6 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 30 July 2008, 8 PM - 9 Tokyo Thursday, 31 July 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 31 July 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Topic: What we saw/heard/learned at InfoComm! I talked to twenty different vendors and hope to get some of them involved here. There is a new MIB doc containing new MIB text! ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080613.pdf The MIB text files are also there under the names ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080613-tc.mib and ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080613-mib.mib Review changes to correct minor problems in the XMLs. Review progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - Further changes suggested last week - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Review the few remaining items on the ToDo list. The ToDo list is almost done at this point. Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. Next F2F Meeting ---- --- ------- Definite date for next F2F meeting? There is no definite date yet. - Check the PDM wiki site for more information and detailed schedule. http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-32, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080728/fad4e3a8/attachment.html From Richard_Landau at Dell.com Wed Jul 30 13:23:19 2008 From: Richard_Landau at Dell.com (Richard_Landau@Dell.com) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Projector & Display Management WG: REMINDER OF CONCALL TODAY Wed-Thurs 7/30-31. Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FC0181E7BD@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> Please call in if at all possible. Thanks. rick ________________________________ From: owner-pdm@pwg.org [mailto:owner-pdm@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Richard_Landau@Dell.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 17:28 To: pdm@pwg.org Subject: PDM> Projector & Display Management WG: REMINDER OF CONCALL Wed-Thurs 7/30-31. P R O J E C T O R & D I S P L A Y M A N A G E M E N T W G Projector & Display Management Working Group conference call REMINDER of Concall 2008/07/30-31 -------- -- ------- ------------- ============================================================== DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME IS IN EFFECT IN THE UNITED STATES. MEETINGS ARE ONE HOUR LATER IN THE U.S. AS A RESULT!!! ============================================================== The next meeting (by conference call) of this working group will be held on Wednesday PM (US) / Thursday AM (Asia), 2008 July 30-31. Time: US Central Time (Austin, Dallas) Wednesday, 30 July 2008, 7 PM - 8 US Pacific Time (Seattle) Wednesday, 30 July 2008, 5 PM - 6 US Eastern Time (New Jersey) Wednesday, 30 July 2008, 8 PM - 9 Tokyo Thursday, 31 July 2008, 9 AM - 10 Singapore, Taiwan Thursday, 31 July 2008, 8 AM - 9 Agenda: ------ Topic: What we saw/heard/learned at InfoComm! I talked to twenty different vendors and hope to get some of them involved here. There is a new MIB doc containing new MIB text! ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080613.pdf The MIB text files are also there under the names ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080613-tc.mib and ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm/wd/wd-pdmmib10-20080613-mib.mib Review changes to correct minor problems in the XMLs. Review progress in writing the remaining material for the document to surround the MIB. - Further changes suggested last week - IANA considerations (Ira) - Internationalization (Ira) - Security (Ira) Review the few remaining items on the ToDo list. The ToDo list is almost done at this point. Telephone bridge details: --------- ------ ------- - US toll-free 1-866-917-7696 - from outside US +1-517-345-1887 - Participant passcode 3524129 # Live Meeting URL: ---- ------- --- https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/dell/join?id=Projector+%26+Display+Mgt+St ds&role=attend&pw=PDM-PWG Note: when LiveMeeting requests "Name" on the first sign-in screen, it wants only a human-consumable version of your name, so that others can see who is in the meeting. Example: "Rick Landau (Dell)" File storage area on PWG web site: ---- ------- ---- -- --- --- ---- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pdm PDM WIKI on the PWG Wiki Site: --- ---- -- --- --- ---- ---- http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM Please take a look at the page, and bookmark it. And edit it if you see something wrong or want to include additional information. Yes, you have the privilege to edit the wiki. Next F2F Meeting ---- --- ------- Definite date for next F2F meeting? There is no definite date yet. - Check the PDM wiki site for more information and detailed schedule. http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/PDM rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-32, Round Rock, TX 78682 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080730/4eb5bb0e/attachment.html From Lee.Farrell at cda.canon.com Wed Sep 17 13:00:39 2008 From: Lee.Farrell at cda.canon.com (Farrell, Lee) Date: Wed May 6 14:01:06 2009 Subject: PDM> Test -- please ignore. Message-ID: <02954887D466F24D9F3FC9F47466DEF00ADA90AD@cdaexchange.sc.rd.canon.com> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.pwg.org/archives/pdm/attachments/20080917/222aa8d5/attachment.html