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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Ira, thanks for your thoughts on REST/SOAP
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">My main focus is on obtaining job status
from a server that already has a list of jobs and their state so I'm not
really exercising PSI at it's fullest </font>
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IBM STSM<br>
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
http://www.pwg.org<br>
IBM Printing Systems <br>
http://www.ibm.com/printers<br>
303-924-5337<br>
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<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">Hi Harry,</font>
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<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">A quick few thoughts.</font>
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<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">PSI is NOT at all SOAP-specific
(the WSDL could easily</font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">generate pure HTTP bindings),
but PSI is RPC-style and</font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">stateful (like all IETF, PWG,
and vendor print protocols),</font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">which is the exact opposite of
REST.</font>
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<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">From my reading of REST descriptions,
it appears REST</font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">is verb-poor and noun-rich and
stateless. Neither PSI,</font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">nor any other real print protocol
is stateless - and I can't</font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">imagine any easy transform to
get there (or why you'd</font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">want to).</font>
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<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">Since there is consistency in
available descriptions of</font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">REST, designing RESTful applications
seems to be a</font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">statement in the eye of the beholder.</font>
<br><font size=3> </font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">Would you care to expand on the
reason for your</font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">question?</font>
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<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">Cheers,</font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Arial">- Ira</font>
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<br><font size=2>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
Chair - FSG Open Printing Steering Committee<br>
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br>
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<br>
phone: +1-906-494-2434<br>
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com</font><font size=3> </font>
<br><font size=2 face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<b><br>
From:</b> owner-ps@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ps@pwg.org]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Harry
Lewis<b><br>
Sent:</b> Monday, January 08, 2007 1:15 PM<b><br>
To:</b> ps@pwg.org<b><br>
Subject:</b> PS> REST version of PSI <br>
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Is PSI so SOAP specific that a REST version would be out of the question?
What basic steps are needed to migrate PSI from SOAP to REST?</font><font size=3>
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Harry Lewis <br>
IBM STSM<br>
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
http://www.pwg.org<br>
IBM Printing Systems <br>
http://www.ibm.com/printers<br>
303-924-5337<br>
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