[Pwg-Announce] Call for Review of langPDF/PS/PCL variants for IANAPrinter MIB (30 April 2010)

[Pwg-Announce] Call for Review of langPDF/PS/PCL variants for IANAPrinter MIB (30 April 2010)

George Liu george.liu at ricoh-tech.com
Mon May 3 20:49:44 UTC 2010


> I think we are stuck treating these as languages/language families. 

I'd like to suggest change the description for langPCL3, langPCL3GUI, langPCL5e, langPCL5c. Rename "HP Printer Command Language xxx" to "Printer Command Language xxx"

George

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet at apple.com]
Sent: Mon 5/3/2010 11:15 AM
To: George Liu
Cc: Ira McDonald; pwg-announce at pwg.org
Subject: Re: [Pwg-Announce] Call for Review of langPDF/PS/PCL variants for IANAPrinter MIB (30 April 2010)
 
On May 3, 2010, at 11:10 AM, George Liu wrote:
> Has PCL-XL been left out intentionally?

Yes, because it is already registered in RFC 3805:

        langPCLXL(47),       -- Not in RFC 1759
                             -- Printer Control Language. Extended
                             -- language features for printing, and
                             -- printer control.
                             -- Tammy Ferguson (HP)
                             -- and Binnur Al-Kazily (HP)
                             -- Technical reference manual: None
                             -- Hewlett-Packard Co.

> 
> There're PCL-XL 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, etc. Microsoft GPD based mini drivers is
> able to generate PCL-XL.
> 
> George
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:47 AM
> To: George Liu; Ira McDonald
> Cc: pwg-announce at pwg.org; Michael R Sweet
> Subject: Re: [Pwg-Announce] Call for Review of langPDF/PS/PCL variants
> for IANAPrinter MIB (30 April 2010)
> 
> Hi George,
> 
> Right - we're only talking about the graphics drawing aspect
> of these printer languages.
> 
> The IEEE 1284 Device ID format only supports a list of
> printer languages - it cannot be extended (interoperably)
> for these other device-specific aspects.
> 
> The PWG cannot actually extend the capabilities keywords
> or their syntax in the base IEEE 1284 spec.
> 
> So the scope of comments we're requesting is only to identify
> any other common variants of PCL (for example) that should
> be registered with IANA.
> 
> All of these are enumerated values in the single Printer MIB
> integer object prtInterpreterLangFamily.  Other objects such
> as prtInterpreterLangLevel and prtInterpreterDescription can
> be used by vendors to distinguish vendor-unique features.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Ira
> 
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
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> 
> 
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:50 PM, George Liu <george.liu at ricoh-tech.com>
> wrote:
>> Unlike PDF, which is a document format, Postscript and PCL/PCL-XL are
> PDL, which means printer-device specific.
>> 
>> A Tray-1 PCL command for HP printer means Bypass Tray, but means the
> first tray under the printer engine for Ricoh printer.
>> Also, in Postscript, there are many vendor specific Postscript
> setpagedevice commands.
>> 
>> How will the new command set definition handles this case?
>> 
>> Are we only taking about the graphics drawing part not the device
> control part?
>> Or are we making "langPCL5e" only for a specific vender?
>> 
>> George
>> 
>> 

________________________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair






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