> I think we are stuck treating these as languages/language families.
I'd like to suggest change the description for langPCL3, langPCL3GUI, langPCL5e, langPCL5c. Rename "HP Printer Command Language xxx" to "Printer Command Language xxx"
From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet at apple.com]
Sent: Mon 5/3/2010 11:15 AM
To: George Liu
Cc: Ira McDonald; pwg-announce at pwg.org
Subject: Re: [Pwg-Announce] Call for Review of langPDF/PS/PCL variants for IANAPrinter MIB (30 April 2010)
On May 3, 2010, at 11:10 AM, George Liu wrote:
> Has PCL-XL been left out intentionally?
Yes, because it is already registered in RFC 3805:
langPCLXL(47), -- Not in RFC 1759
-- Printer Control Language. Extended
-- language features for printing, and
-- printer control.
-- Tammy Ferguson (HP)
-- and Binnur Al-Kazily (HP)
-- Technical reference manual: None
-- Hewlett-Packard Co.
>> There're PCL-XL 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, etc. Microsoft GPD based mini drivers is
> able to generate PCL-XL.
>> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:47 AM
> To: George Liu; Ira McDonald
> Cc: pwg-announce at pwg.org; Michael R Sweet
> Subject: Re: [Pwg-Announce] Call for Review of langPDF/PS/PCL variants
> for IANAPrinter MIB (30 April 2010)
>> Hi George,
>> Right - we're only talking about the graphics drawing aspect
> of these printer languages.
>> The IEEE 1284 Device ID format only supports a list of
> printer languages - it cannot be extended (interoperably)
> for these other device-specific aspects.
>> The PWG cannot actually extend the capabilities keywords
> or their syntax in the base IEEE 1284 spec.
>> So the scope of comments we're requesting is only to identify
> any other common variants of PCL (for example) that should
> be registered with IANA.
>> All of these are enumerated values in the single Printer MIB
> integer object prtInterpreterLangFamily. Other objects such
> as prtInterpreterLangLevel and prtInterpreterDescription can
> be used by vendors to distinguish vendor-unique features.
> - Ira
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
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>>>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:50 PM, George Liu <george.liu at ricoh-tech.com>
>> Unlike PDF, which is a document format, Postscript and PCL/PCL-XL are
> PDL, which means printer-device specific.
>>>> A Tray-1 PCL command for HP printer means Bypass Tray, but means the
> first tray under the printer engine for Ricoh printer.
>> Also, in Postscript, there are many vendor specific Postscript
> setpagedevice commands.
>>>> How will the new command set definition handles this case?
>>>> Are we only taking about the graphics drawing part not the device
> control part?
>> Or are we making "langPCL5e" only for a specific vender?
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
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