PWG> Process

PWG> Process

PWG> Process

McDonald, Ira imcdonald at sharplabs.com
Thu Jun 5 11:06:53 EDT 2003


Hi Don,

OK, I accept your suggestion that PWG Standard is "roughly"
equivalent to IETF Draft Standard (in requirements to be met).

But IETF IPP/1.1 (RFC 2910/2911) will most likely _never_
advance from IETF Proposed Standard to IETF Draft Standard,
which would mean that no IEEE/ISTO PWG spec for IPP extensions
can ever advance beyond PWG Candidate Standard.

The point I'm concerned about is standards in OTHER bodies
that are never going to advance shouldn't hold back PWG
standards, I think.

Comments?

Cheers,
- Ira McDonald
  High North Inc

PS - Note that for IPP/1.1 (RFC 2910/2911) to advance to
IETF Draft Standard status, the IETF IPP WG would have to
be rechartered and a set of thorough (EVERY feature) tests
of interoperability would have to be performed, written up,
and submitted to the IETF.  Wildly unlikely...

-----Original Message-----
From: don at lexmark.com [mailto:don at lexmark.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:44 PM
To: McDonald, Ira
Cc: 'don at lexmark.com'; Harry Lewis; pwg at pwg.org; thrasher at lexmark.com
Subject: RE: PWG> Process



Ira:

I used the word "roughly" with intent.

The PWG should decide whether PWG Standard is "roughly" equivalent to IETF
Draft Standard or to IETF Internet Standard.

Looking at the requirements, I believe IETF Draft Standard is the
equivalent of PWG Standard.

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 Lexmark International
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"McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald at sharplabs.com> on 06/04/2003 03:38:09 PM

To:    "'don at lexmark.com'" <don at lexmark.com>, Harry Lewis
       <harryl at us.ibm.com>
cc:    pwg at pwg.org, thrasher at lexmark.com
Subject:    RE: PWG> Process


Hi Don,

All very good comments.  I agree with all of your proposed additions
and wording changes.

I'm curious about your comment (18) below.  It makes sense (on one
level), but would mean that until IETF IPP/1.1 (RFC 2910/2911) moves
to Internet Standard status (after going from current Proposed
Standard status to future Draft Standard status), no PWG IPP spec
could ever move higher than PWG Candidate Standard.  Right?

Is this desirable, given that the IETF IPP WG is moribund and will
presumably close permanently in the not too distant future?

Cheers,
- Ira McDonald
  High North Inc


-----Original Message-----
From: don at lexmark.com [mailto:don at lexmark.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 12:10 PM
To: Harry Lewis
Cc: pwg at pwg.org; thrasher at lexmark.com
Subject: Re: PWG> Process

<...snip...>

18) Clause 4.7, Page 10, line 355: add "PWG extensions to non-PWG standards
cannot attain PWG Standard status until the base standard has attained the
rough equivalent of PWG Standard status in the other organization."

<...snip...>

**********************************************
 Don Wright                 don at lexmark.com

 Chair,  IEEE SA Standards Board
 Member, IEEE-ISTO Board of Directors
 f.wright at ieee.org / f.wright at computer.org

 Director, Alliances & Standards
 Lexmark International
 740 New Circle Rd
 Lexington, Ky 40550
 859-825-4808 (phone) 603-963-8352 (fax)
**********************************************





Harry Lewis <harryl at us.ibm.com>@pwg.org on 05/21/2003 07:04:12 PM

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Subject:    PWG> Process


There is really no last call process for the process document ;-). Please
review and prepare to try and close this formally at the Portland plenary.
If you can't make Portland please share you comments ahead of time so they
may be incorporated.
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/pwg-process20-20030414.pdf
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