SM> RE: DocumentFormat structure definition location

SM> RE: DocumentFormat structure definition location

SM> RE: DocumentFormat structure definition location

Zehler, Peter PZehler at crt.xerox.com
Thu Nov 21 11:50:29 EST 2002


Bob,
Then the semantics for the DoumentFormat enhancement would be described in
the IPP Document Object and the referenced in the PWG Semantic model.  The
actual XML encoding of those semantic would be in the PWG Semantic Model
Schema just as all the other semantic elements are.
Agreed?
Pete

				Peter Zehler
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-----Original Message-----
From: TAYLOR,BOB (HP-Vancouver,ex1) [mailto:bobt at hp.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:12 AM
To: Zehler, Peter
Cc: PWG Semantic Model WG (E-mail); Hastings, Tom N
Subject: RE: DocumentFormat structure definition location


Of these, I'd prefer specifying this in the IPP document - though probably
as an appendix, since it would be describing an XML structure that we
couldn't directly represent in IPP.

PSI today "purely" just points to the SM document for all of it's element
semantics - I'd rather not start putting this kind of stuff in the PSI
document at this point.

bt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zehler, Peter [mailto:PZehler at crt.xerox.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:54 AM
> To: 'TAYLOR,BOB (HP-Vancouver,ex1)'
> Cc: PWG Semantic Model WG (E-mail); Hastings, Tom N
> Subject: DocumentFormat structure definition location
> 
> 
> Bob,
> 
> I resist defining any new semantic in the PWG Semantic Model document
> itself.  The Semantic Model only references existing semantic 
> elements from
> the printing industry.  If the semantic are important to the printing
> industry than it should be defined and used in a printing 
> application.  
> 
> The two places I can think of for defining the semantic for the
> DocumentFormat structure that augment the information provided in the
> existing MIME definition would be IPP or PSI.  The IPP Document object
> specification might be an appropriate place to define the 
> DocumentFormat
> structure.
> 
> Pete
> 
> 				Peter Zehler
> 				XEROX
> 				Xerox Architecture Center
> 				Email: PZehler at crt.xerox.com
> 				Voice:    (585) 265-8755
> 				FAX:      (585) 265-8871 
> 				US Mail: Peter Zehler
> 					        Xerox Corp.
> 					        800 Phillips Rd.
> 					        M/S 128-30E
> 					        Webster NY, 14580-9701
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TAYLOR,BOB (HP-Vancouver,ex1) [mailto:bobt at hp.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:38 AM
> To: Zehler, Peter
> Subject: RE: SM> Teleconference Agenda and Info
> 
> 
> It could be, but it would be only dictionary-level semantics in there.
> I know SM typically just references other documents for 
> semantics, but if
> we're going to stuff this someplace, it feels more natural in 
> SM than in
> PSI.
> 
> What I suspect we actually should do is put this in the 
> document object 
> doc - maybe as an appendix?
> 
> bt
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Zehler, Peter [mailto:PZehler at crt.xerox.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 5:43 AM
> > To: 'TAYLOR,BOB (HP-Vancouver,ex1)'
> > Subject: RE: SM> Teleconference Agenda and Info
> > 
> > 
> > Bob,
> > We should have time to discuss it.  We need the semantics 
> > spelled out in
> > detail someplace.  Could that be added to PSI someplace?
> > pETE
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TAYLOR,BOB (HP-Vancouver,ex1) [mailto:bobt at hp.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:34 PM
> > To: 'Zehler, Peter'
> > Subject: RE: SM> Teleconference Agenda and Info
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Pete,
> > 
> > Webex for Thursday should be fine.  One other thing for the 
> > agenda (soon, if
> > not this week): we need to create a DocumentFormat structure 
> > to provide the
> > attribute extensions to our current MIME type.
> > 
> > thanks,
> > 
> > bt
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Zehler, Peter [mailto:PZehler at crt.xerox.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:51 AM
> > > To: PWG Semantic Model WG (E-mail)
> > > Subject: SM> Teleconference Agenda and Info
> > > 
> > > 
> > > All, 
> > > 
> > > This Thursday at 1pm EDT is the Semantic Model teleconference. The
> > > teleconference is one hour long.  It will be run using both 
> > > phone and Webex.
> > > Anyone that does not yet have Webex installed should do 
> that before
> > > Thursday.  Information for the phone and Webex are included below.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The agenda for the teleconference:
> > > 1) Review the Face to Face meeting
> > > 2) Discuss "supported" semantics for collections
> > > 3) Discuss Include/Import issues and progress
> > > 4) Overview of work in progress
> > > 5) Next steps
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Pete
> > > 				Peter Zehler
> > > 				XEROX
> > > 				Xerox Architecture Center
> > > 				Email: PZehler at crt.xerox.com
> > > 				Voice:    (585) 265-8755
> > > 				FAX:      (585) 265-8871 
> > > 				US Mail: Peter Zehler
> > > 				        Xerox Corp.
> > > 				        800 Phillips Rd.
> > > 				        M/S 128-30E
> > > 				        Webster NY, 14580-9701
> > > 				        Webster NY, 14580-9701
> > > 
> > > PS to Bob Taylor:  Let me know if there is any problem with 
> > > Webex for this
> > > week.
> > > ________________________________________________________
> > > 
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> > > (Phone Number for Xerox Employees: 8*594-0576)
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> > > webex info:
> > > We will also use an on line tool called webex,
> > > if you have not used this before, setup up by
> > > following the First Time Users instructions.
> > > Do this in advance of the meeting.
> > > 
> > > -------------------------
> > > FIRST TIME USERS
> > > -------------------------
> > > For fully interactive meetings, including the ability
> > > to present your documents and applications, a one-time
> > > setup takes less than 10 minutes. Click this URL to set up now:
> > > 
> > > http://hp.webex.com
> > > 
> > > Then click New User.
> > > -------------------------
> > > 
> > > On Thursday use:
> > > https://hp.webex.com/join/
> > > 
> > > Then click join unlisted meeting.
> > > Use the info below:
> > > -------------------------
> > > Webex MEETING SUMMARY
> > > -------------------------
> > > Name: PWG Semantic Model 
> > > Date: 11/19/2002
> > > Time: 1:00PM, (GMT -04:00) Eastern Time, USA & Canada 
> > (Daylight Time)
> > >          10:00AM, (GMT -07:00) Pacific Time, USA & Canada 
> > > (Daylight Time)
> > > Meeting Number: 21366675
> > > Meeting Password: pwg_sm
> > > Host: 
> > > Bob Taylor (HP)
> > > ___________________________________________________
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 



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