[SM3] Rainer - need definitions of two JDF coating types ASAP

[SM3] Rainer - need definitions of two JDF coating types ASAP

[SM3] Rainer - need definitions of two JDF coating types ASAP

Michael Sweet msweet at apple.com
Mon Oct 27 00:55:01 UTC 2014


Ira,

Thanks, "Protective" clearly maps to the existing 'archival' coating types.  "Aqueous" would also seem to map to 'archival' unless we feel that it is important to differentiate between "green" and "non-green" coatings in the job ticket?


> On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> See good detailed response from Jim Mekis below, as well as Rainer's reply
> already sent to SM3 and IPP mailing lists.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Ira
> 
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
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> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: James Mekis <jmekis at mekis.net>
> Date: Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 2:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Rainer - need definitions of two JDF coating types ASAP
> To: blueroofmusic at gmail.com, Rainer Prosi <Rainer.Prosi at heidelberg.com>
> 
> 
> Ira & Rainer -
> 
> I am not a coatings expert, but here is a short coatings description based
> on my experience. (I am presuming that "Finishings 2.0" is focused on
> post-press operations):
> 
> The coatings listed in JDF's ColorIntent Resource Table can be applied
> either inline or offline.  Offline coatings (finishing) are typically
> intended to be protective.  They can increase water-resistance,
> scuff-resistance, and even food resistance in the case of restaurant menus.
> They have been used for decades to protect offset printed sheets, and usage
> has increased with the desire to protect digitally printed sheets,
> especially photo images.  Like varnish, they come in gloss & dull variants.
> 
> The most commonly coating types requested by customers today are UV coatings
> (Ultra Violet cured polymers) which provide higher durability, and aqueous
> coatings that are viewed as "greener" and typically more easily recycled at
> end-of-life. Both types of overall coating protect the printed image as well
> as the substrate.  They also may be applied over foil embossed surfaces in
> some instances.
> 
> Customers may also specify the performance characteristic they desire in the
> coating rather than specifying a coating type.  Common examples are
> water-resistance, and rub-resistance.  Both characteristics may be required
> at the same time.  An example is in the wine industry, where the white wine
> label has to survive transport rubbing, followed by water and rubbing ice
> cubes in a bucket upon serving.
> 
> Does this help?
> 
>  - Jim
> 
> 
> == ==
> Rainer Prosi wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jim
> > I believe that the definitions were drafted during the printtalk discussions.
> > Could you please help Ira out.
> > Thanks
> > Rainer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com>
> > Date: 20/10/2014 23:48 (GMT+01:00)
> > To: ipp at pwg.org,"Semantic Model 3.0 Workgroup discussion list"
> > <sm3 at pwg.org>,"Prosi, Rainer PT-RD3" <Rainer.Prosi at heidelberg.com>,Rick
> > Yardumian <RYardumian at ciis.canon.com>,Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Rainer - need definitions of two JDF coating types ASAP
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > In our review of PWG Last Call comments today on Finishings 2.0,
> > I got the following action item that I'm passing on to you Rainer:
> >
> > "Action: Ira to ask Rick and Rainer about JDF coating types: "Aqueous"
> > and "Protective"
> >
> > They are not defined in JDF (as far as Mike Sweet could find) and we
> > can't add a keyword to a PWG spec without a clear definition.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > - Ira
> >
> > PS - A reply by the next JDFMAP call next Monday 27 October would
> > be much appreciated - thanks.
> >
> >
> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> > mailto: blueroofmusic at gmail.com<mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com>
> > Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> > Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
> >
> >
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