[SM3] New SM3 Draft Charter Uploaded to PWG FTP Site

[SM3] New SM3 Draft Charter Uploaded to PWG FTP Site

[SM3] New SM3 Draft Charter Uploaded to PWG FTP Site

Ira McDonald blueroofmusic at gmail.com
Mon Aug 24 18:33:30 UTC 2015


Hi,

I also agree with all of Bill's points.  Except that I'd want to see
examples
of concrete PWG-specific other protocols besides IPP that PWG SM
schema should encompass.

Basing the PWG SM XML schema on non-PWG specs is a black hole
with respect to update and accuracy of the non-PWG specs.

The sole exception is the *existing* one of the IETF MIBs (Printer MIB,
Finisher MIB, Job MIB, MIB-II, and Host Resources MIB) that are *already*
in PWG Subunits and Job schema files.

I much prefer to remove *all* editors for non-approved projects, and to
remove *all* on-hold or potential projects from this charter.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:01 PM, <wamwagner at comcast.net> wrote:

> Paul, thank you for generating this draft.
>
> 1.       I agree with the points that Ira and Michael have made. Although
> I am not strongly opposed to Paul’s version, and Michael’s is not what I
> would prefer it to be, Michael’s does reflect what appears to be the
> consensus of the PWG (by default, since I did not hear any strong
> opposition to the notion that the model is to reflect only IPP) But perhaps
> this should be discussed more.
>
> 2.       I suggest that the semantic model task not only be put first,
> but that the task definition include maintaining a web browsable version.
> Wording is it bit rough too.
>
> 3.       I see no reason to list document editors, especially for
> documents  that no longer exist as chartered projects. At any rate, I would
> want my name removed.
>
> 4.       I object to listing on-hold projects and I object to listing
> potential projects.
>
> 5.       Unless  you wish to define the maintenance of the semantic model
> project as relating to SM3, I object to any mention of SM3 in the
> Objectives.  At any rate, objectives 1,2, 4 and 5 should be removed.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Wagner
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Ira McDonald
> *Sent: *Monday, August 24, 2015 1:24 PM
> *To: *Semantic Model 3.0 Workgroup discussion list;Ira McDonald
> *Subject: *Re: [SM3] New SM3 Draft Charter Uploaded to PWG FTP Site
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I agree with all of Mike's comments.
>
>
>
> I like Mike's revised problem statement.
>
>
>
> I'm opposed to any mention at all of 3D when the 3D work is strictly BOF
>
> in PWG and has not become a work item in IPP WG (and is unlikely to
>
> do so in this calendar year, IMHO).
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> - Ira
>
>
>
>
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>
> mailto: blueroofmusic at gmail.com
>
> Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
>
> Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Paul,
>
> >
>
> > > On Aug 23, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > Per an action item from the last F2F, a new SM3 draft charter has been
>
> > uploaded to the PWG FTP site.
>
> >
>
> > 1. The problem statement should probably be re-written based on the
>
> > current focus, e.g.:
>
> >
>
> >     "The Semantic Model workgroup is responsible for maintaining the PWG
>
> > Semantic Model and defining new mappings and abstract models as needed to
>
> > support interoperability and data exchange between Imaging Systems.  The
>
> > PWG Semantic Model is an abstract version of the Internet Printing
> Protocol
>
> > model and semantics which enables interoperability and data exchange with
>
> > other protocols and XML schema."
>
> >
>
> > 2. The schema maintenance should probably be the first work item, since
> it
>
> > is the primary ongoing task.
>
> >
>
> > 3. Drop PPDMAP.  Please.  It is not an "on hold" specification, we've
>
> > agreed to drop it several times already and I am not available to be an
>
> > editor for it.
>
> >
>
> > 4. I'm not sure the 3D stuff needs to be there; if we end up moving
>
> > forward with an IPP version of the specification, the semantic model work
>
> > would be schema maintenance.
>
> >
>
> > _________________________________________________________
>
> > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
>
> >
>
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