WBMM> FW: Wed 19 May 12pm EDT - WIMS Conference Call

WBMM> FW: Wed 19 May 12pm EDT - WIMS Conference Call

WBMM> FW: Wed 19 May 12pm EDT - WIMS Conference Call

McDonald, Ira imcdonald at sharplabs.com
Tue May 18 17:33:33 EDT 2004


Hi,

Recent specs are now on the PWG FTP site at:

    ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimsismod10-20040517.htm
    - PWG Imaging System Model (multifunction)

    ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wbmm/wd/wd-wbmm10-20040517.pdf
    - WBMM/WIMS Protocol Spec

Cheers,
- Ira

-----Original Message-----
From: Wagner,William [mailto:WWagner at NetSilicon.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:27 AM
To: McDonald, Ira; Lee Farrell (E-mail); Harry Lewis; Zehler, Peter;
thrasher at lexmark.com
Cc: wbmm at pwg.org
Subject: Wed 19 May 12pm EDT - WIMS Conference Call


Ira,

OK. That is more handlable. But it still means that unsupported values or
elements are not unlikely.

I know that the PWG services are down, including  the reflector. But I
think  the  core group is addressed here. 

ALL:

The next WBMM/WIMS conference call will be on Wednesday 17 May from  12PM to
1PM EST. 

Time: 12:00 PM EST (9:00 AM PST)  
Call-in US Toll-free: 1-877-874-5524
Call-in International/Toll: 1-712-455-8420
Participant Identification number: 497478#

Proposed Agenda follows: 
	
	A. Review Ira's Posted Imaging System Model

	B. Review attached WIMS Spec. Several questions with respect  to
Management Model vs. System Model, where  use of Agent/Manager is preferable
to Managed  Entity/Management  Station, additions, deletions and  changes to
Operations and Actions. Changes have been so extensive, I  have not
annotated in change notices. Change noted document is practically
unreadable.

Objective is to  put these drafts  onto  the site for  review at F2F next
week.  (Late, but ..)

Many thanks.

Bill Wagner

-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald at sharplabs.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:33 AM
To: Wagner,William; McDonald, Ira; wbmm at pwg.org
Cc: 'Harry Lewis'; 'Zehler, Peter'; 'thrasher at lexmark.com'
Subject: RE: WBMM> New parms for RegisterForManagement


Hi Bill,

[By the way, all of the PWG HTTP/FTP/SMTP services
have been down entirely for several days, so no
else is seeing this reply.]

I specifically meant 'supportedObjects' (the short
list of object classes) and NOT 'supportedElements'
(the exhaustive list of every object and every 
specific element supported within those objects
- a list of thousands of elements).

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Wagner,William [mailto:WWagner at NetSilicon.com]
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 6:52 PM
To: McDonald, Ira; wbmm at pwg.org
Subject: RE: WBMM> New parms for RegisterForManagement


Ira,

For discussion at  Wednesday's  conference  call.  BTW, do you mean
objects : SupportedObjects or
elements : SupportedElements
?

Thanks.

Bill Wagner

-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald at sharplabs.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 11:37 AM
To: 'wbmm at pwg.org'
Subject: WBMM> New parms for RegisterForManagement


Hi folks,

Problem statement:

When a WIMS Agent (on a managed system) _first_ starts
an HTTP connection to its configured or discovered WIMS 
Manager (fleet management system), the very _first_ 
operation request is RegisterForManagement.  And the
WIMS Manager must reply with an operation response that
includes a Schedule (probably including SetElements
and/or SetResources actions).  But the WIMS Manager 
doesn't know what actions or objects are supported 
by the WIMS Agent yet (only a subsequent SendReport or
SendAlert could inform him - too late).


Here's a solution:

RegisterForManagement (sourceURI : URI, targetURI : URI,
                       operations : SupportedOperations,
                       actions : SupportedActions,
                       objects : SupportedObjects)
                       status : StatusString,
                       schedule : Schedule

So that the Agent _tells_ this Manager what operations,
actions, and objects are supported by the Agent for this
particular Manager, who has already been authenticated 
(by either HTTP or TLS server authentication).

Both Pete Zehler and Bill Wagner agree that this is a
good enhancement to RegisterForManagement.

Comments?

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com



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