WIMS> RE: COUNTER-MIB issues

WIMS> RE: COUNTER-MIB issues

WIMS> RE: COUNTER-MIB issues

McDonald, Ira imcdonald at sharplabs.com
Mon Feb 7 13:43:29 EST 2005


Hi Bert,

Thanks very much.

(1) I plan to add the REVISION clause to the 'last call'
    version of the MIB - it will then have to be updated
    again after the PWG Formal Approval vote (because the
    document date changes again.

(2) I had left 'icAlertV2Trap' out of a group because my
    best compiler (Epilogue Emissary) is an older version
    that doesn't support NOTIFICATION-GROUP macros - again,
    I planned to add it to the 'last call' version.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen at lucent.com]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 3:24 AM
To: 'McDonald, Ira'; Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
Subject: RE: COUNTER-MIB issues


C:\bwijnen\smicng\work>smicng counter.inc
W: f(counter.mi2), (14,1) MODULE-IDENTITY imagingCounterMIB should have at
least
 one REVISION clause
W: f(counter.mi2), (1803,1) Item "icAlertV2Trap" is not contained in any
group d
efined in the current module

*** 0 errors and 2 warnings in parsing

> -----Original Message-----
> From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald at sharplabs.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 01:25
> To: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'; McDonald, Ira
> Subject: RE: COUNTER-MIB issues
> 
> 
> Hi Bert,
> 
> Following the PWG naming conventions, the new version is
> posted in the 'wd' (working draft) subdirectory at:
> 
>     ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscountmib10-20050205.htm
>     - full text - PWG boilerplate, introduction, model, references
> 
>     ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscountmib10-20050205.mib
>     - ASN.1 MIB source only
> 
> Cheers,
> - Ira
> 
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> phone: +1-906-494-2434
> email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen at lucent.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 4:59 PM
> To: 'McDonald, Ira'
> Subject: RE: COUNTER-MIB issues
> 
> 
> Thanks for the info.
> I do not see a new copy on ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/mibs/
> yet. So can't check. Let me know when it shows up and if you
> want me to check.
> 
> Bert
> p.s. I expect I will be off line for some 4-6 weeks starting
> Wednesday. I need to undergo heartsurgery. So don't be
> surprised if I do not answer for a while.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald at sharplabs.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 00:18
> > To: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'; McDonald, Ira
> > Subject: RE: COUNTER-MIB issues
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Bert,
> > 
> > Many thanks for your help with improving this Counter MIB.
> > I've just posted a revision with the (first ever) front
> > matter (requirements, model, references, etc.).  You should
> > see the announcement not shortly.
> > 
> > I carefully went through the latest MIB Guidelines I-D for
> > applicable advice and tried to follow it faithfully.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > - Ira
> > 
> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen at lucent.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:17 AM
> > To: McDonald, Ira; 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'; 'wims at pwg.org'
> > Subject: RE: COUNTER-MIB issues
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Ira,
> > I understood (or suspected) it was not a MIB doc that would 
> > come to IETF. I just saw it passing by and figured I would do 
> > a few quick checks and pass whatever I found to you guys.
> > 
> > Glad it was found to be useful.
> > 
> > Bert
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald at sharplabs.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 05:15
> > > To: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'; McDonald, Ira; 'wims at pwg.org'
> > > Subject: RE: COUNTER-MIB issues
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Bert,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your good comments.  All will be addressed and
> > > corrected.  And I'll look through the latest 'MIB Guidelines'
> > > I-D for other ideas.
> > > 
> > > This MIB will _not_ be submitted to the IETF.  It's intended
> > > to be reviewed and adopted as an IEEE/ISTO PWG Candidate
> > > Standard.  It's currently scheduled to enter PWG 'last call'
> > > no later than 1 March 2005 (in the company of the the parent
> > > PWG Counters for Imaging Devices abstract counters spec and
> > > the equivalent Counters XML schema).
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > - Ira
> > > 
> > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> > > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > > email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen at lucent.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 5:49 AM
> > > To: McDonald, Ira; 'Wagner,William'; pwg-announce at pwg.org
> > > Subject: COUNTER-MIB issues
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi... just did a very quick SYNTAX check. This is what I found:
> > > 
> > >   E: f(counter.mi2), (17,21) Date/time(0411270000Z) must 
> have a year
> > >      greater than 89
> > > 
> > > You SHOULD use a 4-digit year. So 200411270000Z would fix 
> > the problem
> > > Sane is true for all the REVISION dates/timestamps
> > > 
> > >   E: f(counter.mi2), (1638,1) Item "icMediaUsedSizeName" 
> has invalid
> > >      value for MAX-ACCESS
> > > 
> > > It has:
> > >   icMediaUsedSizeName OBJECT-TYPE
> > >     SYNTAX      SnmpAdminString (SIZE(0..63))
> > >     MAX-ACCESS  not-accessible
> > > 
> > > The not-accessible is only valid for non-index objects. It 
> > > should only be
> > > used for auxiliary objects.
> > > See sect 7.3 (2nd para) and of RFC2578.
> > > 
> > > In any event, what use does a normal object have if it is not 
> > > accessible?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The smilint tool further shows:
> > >   C:\smi\mibs\work>smilint -m -s -l 6 -inamelength-32
> > > ./PWG-IMAGING-COUNTER-MIB
> > >   ./PWG-IMAGING-COUNTER-MIB:118: [1] {oid-registered} 
> > > identifier `icMIB'
> > > registers
> > >     object identifier already registered by `imagingCounterMIB'
> > >   ./PWG-IMAGING-COUNTER-MIB:118: [6] {previous-definition} 
> > > info: previous
> > >     definition of `imagingCounterMIB'
> > > 
> > > Further, I see:
> > > 
> > >    icMIBObjects            OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { icMIB 1 }
> > >    icMIBNotifications      OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { icMIB 2 }
> > >    icMIBConformance        OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { icMIB 3 }
> > > 
> > > No notifications have yet been defined. Potentially it would 
> > > be better to do
> > > 
> > >    icMIBNotifications      OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { icMIB 0 }
> > >    icMIBObjects            OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { icMIB 1 }
> > >    icMIBConformance        OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { icMIB 2 }
> > > 
> > > It allows notifications to be defined directly under 
> > > icMIBNotifications
> > > and it would be more inline with IETF MIB guidance as per 
> appendix D
> > > of draft-ietf-ops-mib-review-guidelines-03.txt
> > > 
> > > Firther I saw:
> > >   icGeneralGroup OBJECT-GROUP
> > >     OBJECTS {
> > >         icGeneralNaturalLanguage,
> > >         icGeneralTotalServiceRecords,
> > >         icGeneralTotalSubunitRecords,
> > >         icGeneralTotalMediaUsedRecords
> > >     }
> > >     STATUS      current
> > >     DESCRIPTION
> > >         "Mandatory - general object group.
> > > 
> > >         An Imaging System MUST support and implement this 
> > > object group."
> > >     ::= { icMIBObjectGroups 1 }
> > > 
> > > In general it is NOT GOOD to specify in the OBJECT-GROUP 
> > > DESCRIPTION clause 
> > > if such a group is mandatory or optional. The OBJECT-GROUP 
> > > macro is meant
> > > to just group objects together in logical groups.
> > > In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE you can then specify which groups 
> > > are mandatory
> > > (i.e.
> > > MUST support" or "conditionally mandatory" or "optional" etc.
> > > It would then be good to include in the DESCRIPTION clauses 
> > > of the GROUP
> > > clause
> > > (in the MODULE-COMPLIANCE statement) under what conditions a 
> > > conditionally
> > > mandatroy group must be supported.
> > > 
> > > Section 4.8 of draft-ietf-ops-mib-review-guidelines-03.txt 
> > > has detailed
> > > guidelines on MODULE-COMPLIANCE approaches.
> > > 
> > > I did not review or check the MIB module in any detail.
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps, Bert
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-pwg-announce at pwg.org 
> > > [mailto:owner-pwg-announce at pwg.org]On
> > > > Behalf Of McDonald, Ira
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 02:22
> > > > To: 'Wagner,William'; pwg-announce at pwg.org
> > > > Subject: RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> [wrong MIB URL] Jan 11 WIMS Agenda
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > Bill cut-and-pasted my announcement error of the 
> Counter MIB URL.
> > > > 
> > > > PLEASE pickup the entirely restructured Counter MIB v0.40 at:
> > > > 
> > > >     ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/mibs/counter-mib-20041127.txt
> > > > 
> > > > This v0.40 is aligned with the terminology in the 
> current Counter
> > > > spec.
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > - Ira
> > > > 
> > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > > > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> > > > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > > > email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-pwg-announce at pwg.org 
> > > [mailto:owner-pwg-announce at pwg.org]On
> > > > Behalf Of Wagner,William
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 6:31 PM
> > > > To: pwg-announce at pwg.org
> > > > Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Jan 11 WIMS Agenda
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Greetings:
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > The WIMS WG will meet Tuesday 11 January at Sharp SLA at 
> > Vancouver,
> > > > Waslington
> > > > 
> > > >       Dial In: 1-866-365-4406 
> > > >       Toll #: 1-303-248-9655 
> > > >       Passcode: 2635888# 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The proposed agenda is: 
> > > > 
> > > > 9:00 - 9:15         Introductions and Agenda
> > > > 
> > > > 9:15 – 9:30 Review of Last F2F minutes and Action Items
> > > > 
> > > >                   
> > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/minutes/wims_041116.pdf 
> > > > 
> > > > 9:30-10:00   Counter MIB
> > > > 
> > > >             
> > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/mibs/counter-mib-20040428.txt
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > 10:00-10:15  Break
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 10:15-12:00       Counter Spec -preparing for Last Call
> > > > 
> > > >             
> > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20050105.doc 
> > > >  
> > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20050105.pdf 
> > > > 
> > > > 12:00- 13:30      Lunch
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > 13:30 - 15:30    Schema
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >       - Counter Schema
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/schemas/PwgCountersProposal091304.zip
> > > > <ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/schemas/PwgCountersProposal091
> > > > 304.zip>   
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >       - WIMS Base v0.10 - Agent, Device, Manager, 
> Service, System
> > > > 
> > > >             
> > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/schemas/wimsbase-20041212.xsd
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >       - WIMS Type v0.10
> > > > 
> > > >             
> > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/schemas/wimstype-20041212.xsd
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >       - Alert v0.40 - Alert and Subscription
> > > > 
> > > >             
> > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/schemas/alert-20041212.xsd
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >       - Events v0.70
> > > > 
> > > >             
> > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/schemas/events-20041212.xsd
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >       - Report v0.40
> > > > 
> > > >             
> > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/schemas/report-20041212.xsd
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >       - Resource v0.60
> > > > 
> > > >             
> > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/schemas/resource-20041212.xsd
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >       - Schedule v0.92
> > > 
> > >             
> > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/schemas/schedule-20041212.xsd
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >       - Subunits v0.30      
> > 
> >             
> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/schemas/subunits-20041212.xsd
> 
>  
> 
> 15:30-15:45       Break
> 
>  
> 
> 15:45-16:45 -WIMS Spec 
> 
>             ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wims10-20050110.pdf
> 
> (I am having trouble sending this to the FTP server. 
> Hopefully, it will be
> there by Tuesday morning.) 
> 
>  
> 
> 16:45-17:15       Next Steps & Other Related management activities. 
> 
>  
> 
>       -DMTF+ OMG
> 
>             http://www.omg.org/news/releases/pr2004/12-13-04.htm
> 
>  
> 
>       -WS-Management
> 
>  
> http://www.intel.com/technology/manage/downloads/ws_management.pdf
> 
>  
> 
>       -WSDM (Spec out for comments)
> 
>  
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?wg_abbrev=wsdm
> 
>  
> 
> Bill Wagner 
> 
>  
> 



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