[WIMS] Re: CIM Print and MFD Alert Groups - please update PWG agenda and WIMS slides

[WIMS] Re: CIM Print and MFD Alert Groups - please update PWG agenda and WIMS slides

[WIMS] Re: CIM Print and MFD Alert Groups - please update PWG agenda and WIMS slides

Ira McDonald blueroofmusic at gmail.com
Tue Feb 1 23:25:30 UTC 2011


Hi Bill,

I was complicit in this confusion of MFD Alert Groups scope
in December F2F (I hadn't read the spec in several years).

There never *were* any actual Alerts named - just new subunit
groups (Scanner, FaxModem), as in the PWG Semantic Model.

Adding new system level security alerts is a small and reasonable
addition for PrtAlertCodeTC.

Adding specific alerts for the largely unmodelled Scanner and
ScanMediaPath and so on would be a *large* change of scope.

And not feasible, unless we decide to write a Scan Device MIB
and Fax Device MIB - I don't want to go there...

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:04 PM, William Wagner <wamwagner at comcast.net>wrote:

> Hi Ira,
>
>
>
> I will post WIMS meeting slides with updated links later today.
>
>
>
> Presently plenary slides do not include CIM or alerts links. I assume
> alerts will change Thursday regardless.
>
>
>
> I do not understand your scope issue. I had pulled the MFD alerts comments
> from previous minutes and do not see where I have increased the scope. You
> can certainly clarify the limits on what you intend to do during the
> meeting.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Bill Wagner
>
> *From:* Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:19 PM
> *To:* William Wagner; Michael Sweet; Ira McDonald
> *Cc:* wims at pwg.org
> *Subject:* CIM Print and MFD Alert Groups - please update PWG agenda and
> WIMS slides
>
>
>
> Hi Mike and Bill,
>
> I would appreciate it if you guys could add links to my releases
> yesterday to the PWG F2F agenda and the WIMS WG slides for:
> (a) revised CIM Print MOFs; and (b) revised MFD Alert Groups
> spec.
>
> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/cim/mofinput/ira-20110131.zip
>
> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pmp/wd/wd-pmpmfdalerts10-20110131-rev.pdf
>
> We have a *major* scope issue in the current WIMS WG slides.
>
> The existing MFD Alert Groups spec ONLY defines new values
> for PrtAlertGroupTC.  It does NOT define any actual new values
> for PrtAlertCodeTC for the new subunits.
>
> Adding specific alerts for Scanner, FaxModem, or security  would
> be a major expansion of scope.
>
> And adding specific alerts for Scanner, FaxModem, etc. (rather
> than using the existing subunit generic alerts from Printer MIB v2)
> would be architecturally risky because...
>
> We do NOT plan to develop a ScanDevice or FaxDevice MIB at
> present (and I don't want to tackle them now).
>
> Comments?
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira (Editor of MFD Alert Groups)
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
> Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com
> Christmas through April:
>   579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176
>   734-944-0094
> May to Christmas:
>   PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839
>   906-494-2434
>
>
>

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