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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I agree with this collapsing proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Elliott
Bradshaw<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> owner-xp@pwg.org
[mailto:owner-xp@pwg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Grant,
Melinda<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 13,
2006 10:21 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> xp@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> XP> [CSS3 Paged Media]
Page collapsing</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=green face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:green'>The CSS Paged
Media specification (<a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-css3-page-20040225/">http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-css3-page-20040225/</a>)
is currently unclear as to what should happen when multiple page-break-*
properties accumulate. The spec is clear that a :left or :right
pseudo-class can require that a blank page or surface is generated.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=green face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:green'>For example:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face="MS Reference Sans Serif"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"MS Reference Sans Serif"'><p>This is a paragraph on page
1.</p><br>
<div style="page-break-before"><br>
<div style="page-break-before"><br>
The first div causes a
page break; does the second div cause another page break, putting this content
on page 3, or are the page breaks collapsed into a single page break so that
this is printed on page 2?</div><br>
</div></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=green face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:green'>Or:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face="MS Reference Sans Serif"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"MS Reference Sans Serif"'><body><br>
<p> I am printed on the first page.</p><br>
<div style="page-break-after:always"><br>
<div style="page-break-after:always"><br>
<div
style="page-break-after:always"><br>
<div
style="page-break-after:always"><br>
<div
style="page-break-after:always"> I am also printed on the
first page.<br>
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</div><br>
</div><br>
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<p>Where am I printed?</p></span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face="MS Reference Sans Serif"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Reference Sans Serif"'></body></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=green face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:green'>Or:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face="MS Reference Sans Serif"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"MS Reference Sans Serif"'><body><br>
<p style="page-break-after">This is a paragraph on page
1.</p><br>
<div style="page-break-before"><br>
The p generated a
page break; does the div cause another page break, putting this content on page
3, or are the page breaks collapsed into a single page break so that this is
printed on page 2?<br>
</div><br>
</body></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=green face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:green'>Different
implementations behave differently, as might be expected. I would like to
tighten up the spec to require that page-break properties collapse such that no
empty pages or surfaces are generated except for one when needed to get to the
next right- or left-facing page. Authors can use other means to create
blank pages. This will make results more interoperable.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=green face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:green'>(I do not yet
have consensus from the CSS WG to make this change. Most implementations
collapse pages, but Opera's does not, and they may not be willing to accept the
change.)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=green face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:green'>If you wish to
object to this proposed clarification or express support, please do so by
posting a response here or to <a href="mailto:www-style@w3.org">www-style@w3.org</a>
by September 23.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=green face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:green'>Best wishes,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=green
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:green'>Melinda</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>
_____ <br>
<br>
HP - Melinda Grant<br>
Connectivity Standards <br>
Consumer Printing and Imaging<br>
+1 (541) 582-3681<br>
melinda.grant@hp.com <br>
_____ <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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