PMP Mail Archive: PMP> RE: FIN> Add 'percent(19)' to 'Prt

PMP Mail Archive: PMP> RE: FIN> Add 'percent(19)' to 'Prt

PMP> RE: FIN> Add 'percent(19)' to 'PrtCapacityUnitTC' and 'PrtMarkerS uppliesUn itTC'

From: McDonald, Ira (imcdonald@sharplabs.com)
Date: Sun Nov 19 2000 - 16:30:55 EST

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    Hi Dennis,

    YES - for 'prtInputMaxCapacity' I'll return 100, as you say.
    Products that don't KNOW their actual capacity but only their
    relative level really do NEED this 'percent' extension.

    I have found email from Xerox and FujiXerox implementors in my
    own archives more than two years ago asking for this exact
    extension to capacity/level objects. We did nothing about
    it at the time because the Printer MIB v2 was dead in the
    water for over two years.

    So what if capacity is uninformative. The levels ARE.

    Cheers,
    - Ira McDonald, consulting architect at Xerox and Sharp
      High North Inc

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Dennis Carney [mailto:dcarney@us.ibm.com]
    Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:57 AM
    To: 'pmp@pwg.org'; 'fin@pwg.org'
    Cc: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
    Subject: FIN> Add 'percent(19)' to 'PrtCapacityUnitTC' and
    'PrtMarkerSuppliesUn itTC'

    Ira,

    What are you going to return for prtInputMaxCapacity when
    prtInputCapacityUnit is 'percent'? 100? The same capacity unit is used for
    both max capacity and current level, and 'percent' fits one but not the
    other.

    Dennis Carney
    IBM Printing Systems
    ---------------------- Forwarded by Dennis Carney/Boulder/IBM on 11/17/2000
    12:56 PM ---------------------------

    "McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com>@pwg.org on 11/17/2000 12:25:50 PM

    Sent by: fin-owner@pwg.org

    To: "'pmp@pwg.org'" <pmp@pwg.org>, "'fin@pwg.org'" <fin@pwg.org>
    cc:
    Subject: FIN> Add 'percent(19)' to 'PrtCapacityUnitTC' and
          'PrtMarkerSuppliesUn itTC'

    Hi,

    Implementors here at Sharp have found a serious problem with
    'prtInputCurrentLevel', 'prtOutputRemainingCapacity' and
    'prtMarkerSuppliesLevel'.

    Their related units objects need 'percent(19)' added to
    allow reporting of RELATIVE levels (often the only
    information known from sensors).

    - 'PrtCapacityUnitTC' should have 'items(18)' (per Ron B
      and Harry L) and 'percent(19)' added
    - 'PrtMarkerSuppliesSupplyUnitTC' should have 'percent(19)'
      added

    BOTH of these textual conventions should also have 'other(1)'
    and 'unknown(2)' added - this would provide short-term
    relief to the NEXT product team that finds a missing unit
    AFTER the Printer MIB v2 is published as an RFC.

    Cheers,
    - Ira McDonald, consulting architect at Sharp
      High North Inc



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