PMP Mail Archive: RE: PMP> Printer MIB draft-11 posted at PW

PMP Mail Archive: RE: PMP> Printer MIB draft-11 posted at PW

RE: PMP> Printer MIB draft-11 posted at PWG site (10 January 2002 )

From: Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com
Date: Mon Mar 18 2002 - 15:09:01 EST

  • Next message: McDonald, Ira: "RE: PMP> Printer MIB draft-11 posted at PWG site (10 January 2002 )"

    Ira,

    I have added the typo in Appendix B to my list for the items to be corrected
    when the document reaches the RFC Editor's queue. I agree that we need to
    add a reference to the new Media Names standard to section 10 and a note
    added to Appendix B and C indicating this document defines the "latest"
    recommended method. We can word-smith some text in the next few weeks.

    Are you at the IETF meeting? If so, can you link up with Bert or Juergen to
    get a feel for how much longer? I had intended to call you last week on
    this subject, but then the week was gone. I am leaving on vacation on
    Wednesday. I will still have access to email but will only check in the
    evenings.

            Ron

    -----Original Message-----
    From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald@sharplabs.com]
    Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:03 AM
    To: 'Hopkins, Mark'; McDonald, Ira; 'Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com';
    'bwijnen@lucent.com'
    Cc: 'schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de'; 'dbh@enterasys.com'; 'harryl@us.ibm.com';
    'RCasterline@lhsolutions.com'; 'pmp@pwg.org'
    Subject: RE: PMP> Printer MIB draft-11 posted at PWG site (10 January
    2002 )

    Hi Mark,

    [The IEEE-ISTO 5101.1 media names standard is brand new. The most recent
    Printer MIB draft (17 December 2001) preceded the adoption of 5101.1.]

    1) [my opinion - not a concensus of the editors or WG]

    Ira - Yes, 'prtInputMediaName', 'prtInputMediaDimFeedDirChosen',
    'prtInputMediaDimXFeedDirChosen', 'prtInputMediaDimUnit',
    and Appendix B Media Size Names and Appendix C Media Names
    _should_ be revised to reference IEEE-ISTO 5101.1 as successor and
    superset of ISO 10175 (DPA) names. And I agree that use of the Self
    Describing Name should be _recommended_ (not required, because it's
    not backward compatible with RFC 1759, Printer MIB v1) for use in the
    'prtInputMediaName' object.
    Rationale - IEEE-ISTO 5101.1 is intended to be reference _by_ other
    standards (like a revision of IPP/1.1, Bluetooth Print, UPnP Print,
    and others) that use media names. A Printer MIB normative reference
    to IEEE-ISTO 5101.1 should be OK, in an IETF 'standards track' RFC,
    because 5101.1 has been adopted and archived at the PWG web site.

    Ron and Ray - comments?

    2) [typo in Appendix B]

    Ira - Yes, there are two typos at the end of the first paragraph in
    Appendix B. It _should_ say both 'prtInputMediaDimFeedDirChosen'
    and 'prtInputMediaDimXFeedDirChosen'.

    Ron - we need to capture this typo for RFC Editor.

    Cheers,
    - Ira McDonald, co-editor of Printer MIB v2
      High North Inc

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Hopkins, Mark [mailto:MHopkins@crt.xerox.com]
    Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 4:18 PM
    To: 'McDonald, Ira'; 'Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com';
    'bwijnen@lucent.com'
    Cc: 'schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de'; 'dbh@enterasys.com'; 'harryl@us.ibm.com';
    'RCasterline@lhsolutions.com'; 'pmp@pwg.org'
    Subject: RE: PMP> Printer MIB draft-11 posted at PWG site (10 January
    2002 )

    Ira,

    I am confused about the messages from PWG concerning media size names in the
    Printer MIB and IEEE-ISTO 5101. In particular, in the Printer MIB,
    shouldn't prtInputMediaName reference IEEE-ISTO 5101.1 in preference to
    Appendix C. And it seems that the Self-Describing Name should be encouraged
    as the default MediaName.

    Also, please note that the last line of the first paragraph of Appendix B
    uses the object name prtMediaDimFeedDir. I believe you mean
    prtInputChosenMediaDimFeedDir.

    Thanks for pushing the Printer MIB through the process.

    Mark Hopkins

    -----Original Message-----
    From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald@sharplabs.com]
    Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:15 PM
    To: McDonald, Ira; 'Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com'; 'bwijnen@lucent.com'
    Cc: 'schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de'; 'dbh@enterasys.com'; 'harryl@us.ibm.com';
    'RCasterline@lhsolutions.com'; 'pmp@pwg.org'
    Subject: RE: PMP> Printer MIB draft-11 posted at PWG site (10 January
    2002 )

    Hi folks,

    I just posted the latest version of Printer MIB v2 (draft-11) at the
    PWG FTP server - this copy DOES have the formfeeds (page breaks), so
    it prints and views better. And I extracted and compiled and verified
    the ASN.1 for the MIB.

    To the best of our knowledge this version corrects all problems that
    Bert Wijnen, David Harrington, and Juergen Schoenwaelder have found.
    The editors believe this document is now ready for publication as an RFC.

    At the PWG anonymous FTP server in the directory:

        ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pmp/drafts/

    in the files:

        draft-ietf-printmib-mib-info-11.txt -- full document w/ formfeeds

        draft-ietf-printmib-mib-info-11.mib -- extracted ASN.1 for MIB

    Cheers,
    - Ira McDonald, co-editor of Printer MIB v2
      High North Inc
      imcdonald@sharplabs.com



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