PMP Mail Archive: PMP> RE: Adding ppmPortDescription to Port

PMP Mail Archive: PMP> RE: Adding ppmPortDescription to Port

PMP> RE: Adding ppmPortDescription to Port Mon MIB

From: Bergman, Ron (Ron.Bergman@rpsa.ricoh.com)
Date: Thu Apr 21 2005 - 15:24:22 EDT

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    Mike,
     
    The ppmPortName object may contain a maximum of 127 characters.
    Does this meet your requirement?
     
       Ron
     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Mike Fenelon [mailto:mfenelon@windows.microsoft.com]
    Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:59 AM
    To: Bergman, Ron; McDonald, Ira; Paul Danbold
    Cc: pmp@pwg.org; Harry Lewis (E-mail); Ivan Pavicevic
    Subject: RE: Adding ppmPortDescription to Port Mon MIB

    The intent of this object is to give a short, concise user-friendly name of the port. It will be presented in the User Interface for and device that advertises more than one port so the user can pick the correct port for their connected printer. The whole intent was to differentiate between multiple ports on a device that could host multiple printers. I am concerned we will start degrading the user experience if we add a whole bunch of ports for the same printer with slightly different names.

     

    Mike Fenelon
    Microsoft

     

      _____

    From: Bergman, Ron [mailto:Ron.Bergman@rpsa.ricoh.com]
    Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:32 AM
    To: McDonald, Ira; Paul Danbold
    Cc: pmp@pwg.org; Harry Lewis (E-mail); Mike Fenelon; Ivan Pavicevic
    Subject: RE: Adding ppmPortDescription to Port Mon MIB

     

    Ira,

     

    I would like to hear from Mike or Ivan on this subject, rather than rely on memory.

    Your comment does not agree with the current description clause for this object.

     

        Ron

    -----Original Message-----
    From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald@sharplabs.com]
    Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:37 AM
    To: 'Paul Danbold'; Bergman, Ron
    Cc: pmp@pwg.org; Harry Lewis (E-mail); McDonald, Ira; MFenelon@microsoft.com; IvanP@microsoft.com
    Subject: RE: Adding ppmPortDescription to Port Mon MIB

    Hi Ron,

     

    Doesn't work - MS specifically said that they wanted PortName restricted

    to a _name_ that they will display in their tools and do NOT want it to

    include descriptive text. Your memory is incorrect.

     

    Cheers,

    - Ira

     

    Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
    PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
    phone: +1-906-494-2434
    email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Paul Danbold [mailto:danbold@apple.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:55 PM
    To: Bergman, Ron
    Cc: pmp@pwg.org; Harry Lewis (E-mail); Ira McDonald (E-mail 3); MFenelon@microsoft.com; IvanP@microsoft.com
    Subject: Re: Adding ppmPortDescription to Port Mon MIB

    Ron,

     

    Thanks for the clarification. In the expectation that manufacturers will initialize ppmPortName with helpful information, I am satisfied there is no need to add an additional object.

     

    -Paul

     

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    Paul Danbold

    Imaging Technologies Evangelist, Apple Worldwide Developer Relations

    3 Infinite Loop, MS:303-2TE, Cupertino, CA 95014

    408-974-0050 (office) 408-425-3351 (mobile)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

     

     

    On Apr 15, 2005, at 9:48 AM, Bergman, Ron wrote:

    I remembered this morning why we decided, several months back, to remove this object.
    Since the MIB contained both a desciptive name and a description, it was agreed that
    the two objects were redundant. To clarify this situation I recommend that the object
    ppmPortName be changed to ppmPortDescriptiveName or ppmPortDescription, rather
    than go back to the original redundant pair.

    ppPortName is a natural language string with up to 127 characters. For Paul Danbold's
    example I could provide a name such as:

            "Networked LPR port providing binary PostScript printing for use by marketing"

    This is less than 80 characters and should be more than sufficient to satisfy Paul's
    requirement.

    Also, in addition to a possible name change, it must be noted that this object is
    expected to be administratively configured using an out-of-band method.

    Paul, please indicate if this is sufficient.

            Ron Bergman
            Ricoh Printing Systems America

     

     

     



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