[From nobody Tue Nov 10 16:26:08 2015
From: &quot;Rodriguez, Eren&quot; &lt;eren.rodriguez@hp.com&gt;
To: &quot;ipp@pwg.org&quot; &lt;ipp@pwg.org&gt;
Subject: IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification Prototype Experience
Thread-Topic: IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification Prototype Experience
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 00:00:37 +0000
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Hi,


I have been playing with the IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification test=
 suite and I would like to challenge a failure seen with our IPP printers a=
t HP.


More specifically, inside ipp-tests.test, before test I-26, the tester is a=
sked to remove paper from the printer.

Next, it sends a JPEG Print-Job request before sending a Get-Printer-Attrib=
utes request right afterwards with the expectation that &quot;media-needed&quot; keyw=
ord should be in &quot;printer-state-reasons&quot;

Due to hardware limitations, there may be printers in the world that cannot=
 detect out of paper at the time when this request arrives.  For example, o=
n this printer, we currently have &quot;spool-area-full-report&quot; to reflect we ar=
e working on the job.


Since this is a JPEG, this printer will take in the data and reply back to =
the Print-Job request fairly quickly. However, it does not have media prese=
nce capabilities so it needs some time, beyond the time given by the test s=
cript, to go through the mechanical motions to detect out of paper.


It would be better if the scripts adjusted to these timing issues using del=
ays or repeats with limits.


Thank you in advance,

Eren Rodriguez @ HP inkjet


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&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:12.0pt;color:black&quot;&gt;I have =
been playing with the IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification test suite =
and I would like to challenge a failure seen with our IPP printers at HP.&lt;o=
:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:12.0pt;color:black&quot;&gt;More sp=
ecifically, inside
&lt;b&gt;ipp-tests.test&lt;/b&gt;, before test I-26, the tester is asked to remove pape=
r from the printer.
&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:12.0pt;color:black&quot;&gt;Next, i=
t sends a JPEG Print-Job request before sending a Get-Printer-Attributes re=
quest right afterwards with the expectation that &amp;#8220;media-needed&amp;#8221;=
 keyword should be in &amp;#8220;printer-state-reasons&amp;#8221;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;=
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:12.0pt;color:black&quot;&gt;Due to =
hardware limitations, there may be printers in the world that cannot detect=
 out of paper at the time when this request arrives.&amp;nbsp; For example, on =
this printer, we currently have &amp;#8220;spool-area-full-report&amp;#8221;
 to reflect we are working on the job.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:12.0pt;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;n=
bsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:12.0pt;color:black&quot;&gt;Since t=
his is a JPEG, this printer will take in the data and reply back to the Pri=
nt-Job request fairly quickly. However, it does not have media presence cap=
abilities so it needs some time, beyond
 the time given by the test script, to go through the mechanical motions to=
 detect out of paper.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:12.0pt;color:black&quot;&gt;It woul=
d be better if the scripts adjusted to these timing issues using delays or =
repeats with limits.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:12.0pt;color:black&quot;&gt;Thank y=
ou in advance,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:12.0pt;color:black&quot;&gt;Eren Ro=
driguez @ HP inkjet&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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