IFX> Legal Requirements on Classic fax

IFX> Legal Requirements on Classic fax

don at lexmark.com don at lexmark.com
Tue Feb 20 09:34:04 EST 2001



I am not sure that mandating all implementations have the font data necessary to
print the thousands and thousands of glyphs accessible using UTF-8 encoding is
practical.

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MAEDA toru <maeda.toru%canon.co.jp at interlock.lexmark.com> on 02/20/2001 04:57:53
AM

To:   "Carl Kugler" <kugler%us.ibm.com at interlock.lexmark.com>
cc:   Dan Wing <dwing%cisco.com at interlock.lexmark.com>,
      jdahmen%atl.mediaone.net at interlock.lexmark.com, "'Wagner,William'"
      <wwagner%netsilicon.com at interlock.lexmark.com>,
      ifx%pwg.org at interlock.lexmark.com (bcc: Don Wright/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject:  RE: IFX> Legal Requirements on Classic fax



Carl-san


We can use a universal character encoding scheme like UTF-8.
A terminal can send information by UTF-8,
but the receiver could not print the information written in UTF-8
since it needs font data to print.

We can raise the bar that IPP FAX must print all UTF-8.


Regards.

Toru Maeda


At 09:28 01/02/16 -0700, Carl Kugler wrote:

>Wouldn't a universal character encoding scheme like UTF-8 solve the
>character set problem?
>
>      -Carl
>
>
>
>MAEDA toru <maeda.toru at canon.co.jp>@pwg.org on 02/16/2001 03:11:43 AM
>
>Sent by:  owner-ifx at pwg.org
>
>
>To:   Dan Wing <dwing at cisco.com>
>cc:   jdahmen at atl.mediaone.net, "'Wagner,William'"
>       <wwagner at netsilicon.com>, ifx at pwg.org
>Subject:  RE: IFX> Legal Requirements on Classic fax
>
>
>
>Wing-san
>
>Thank you very much for the clarification.
>
>"And an ifax device would need
>to understand all sorts of different character sets to interpret all
>sorts of different headers."
>
>This idea is not practical, so the fax sends the image header
>on top of the page and the coded Sender ID over T.30 protocol.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Toru Maeda
>
>At 08:21 01/02/14 -0800, Dan Wing wrote:
> >On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:07 +0900, MAEDA toru wrote:
> >
> > > Wing-san
> > >
> > > I understand that all common mailers, including Eudora, Netscape, pine,
> > > and many others, are capable of handling RFC2047-encoded headers.
> > > But printing or imaging RFC2047-encoded headers are different
>capability.
> >
> >Agreed.
> >
> > > I am not sure that you can print out my email signature in Japanese
>below.
> >
> >Of course not; it doesn't identify itself as a MIME type in a different
> >character set -- it is merely some ASCII embedded in a normal message.
> >
> >But you're right - even if it did, my mailer (pine) doesn't try to
> >display it on the VT100 emulator I use.  And an ifax device would need
> >to understand all sorts of different character sets to interpret all
> >sorts of different headers.
> >
> >The advantage of using computer-readable headers, of course, is allowing
> >for sorting, searching, and other computer-assisted operations.  That
> >can only be done with image data using unreliable OCR.
> >
> >-d
> >
> > > -----------------------------------
> > > $B%-%d%N%s3t<02q<R(B
> > > $B1GA|;vL35!(BMIE$B?d?J%;%s%?!<(B
> > > $B1GA|;vL35!(BMIE$BBh#23+H/It(B
> > > $BA0ED!!E0(B
> > > 146-8501$B!!El5~ETBgED6h2<4];R#3!]#3#0!]#2(B
> > > $BEEOC!!(B03-3757-9738$B!"(BFAX$B!!(B03-3757-8205
> > > -----------------------------------
> > >
> > > Toru Maeda
> > >
> > >
> > > At 18:46 01/02/13 -0800, Dan Wing wrote:
> > > >On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:29 +0900, MAEDA toru wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Jim-san
> > > > >
> > > > > We designed that the IFAX header is similer as G3 header.
> > > > > The IFAX header consists of date, time,mail address of transmitter
>and
> > > > page
> > > > > number.
> > > > > One of reason that fax header is send as image form is character
>font
> > > > > converting to image.
> > > > > The receiver could not print the information form transmitter
> > > > > when Japanese characters are send from the transmitter in the
> > information.
> > > >
> > > >Hi.
> > > >
> > > >RFC2047-encoded headers can handle non-ASCII character sets, including
> > > >Japanese.  Almost all common mailers, including Eudora, Netscape,
>pine,
> > > >and many others, are capable of handling RFC2047-encoded headers when
>both
> > > >sending and receiving messages.
> > > >
> > > >-d
> > > >
> > > > > I know that the user may not understand the Japanese characters in
>the
> > > > > image header.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Toru Maeda
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > --------------------
> > > MAEDA TORU
> > > MIE Development Div. 2
> > > CANON Inc.
> > > --------------------
> > >
>
>-----------------------------------
>
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>?????MIE??????
>?????MIE?????
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>146-8501????????????????
>???03-3757-9738?FAX?03-3757-8205
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>

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MAEDA TORU
MIE Development Div. 2
CANON Inc.
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