FW: IFX> TIFFFx

FW: IFX> TIFFFx

Farrell, Lee Lee.Farrell at cda.canon.com
Tue May 14 16:13:30 EDT 2002


I don't think this made it out to the reflector before.  My apologies if it's a repeat.

lee

-----Original Message-----
From: Farrell, Lee 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:20 PM
To: ifx at pwg.org
Subject: RE: IFX> TIFFFx


I think Bill is raising an issue that is fairly core to the goals and purpose of IPP Fax.  If we're open to changing this requirement, shouldn't we set out to agree on our (new?) priorities/requirements/goals -- before selecting a solution alternative?

Or do most people feel that there is already general consensus on these things?

-----Original Message-----
From: Wagner,William [mailto:wwagner at netsilicon.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 10:38 AM
To: Gail Songer; ifx at pwg.org
Subject: RE: IFX> TIFFFx


Gail,

I certainly would like to consider what Ron is drawing up. An "IPP Solution", based on the IPP protocol but guaranteeing certain minimum attributes (esp data formats) may be a good approach. I think restricting the format to PDF may be unnecessarily limiting.

I have never been a strong proponent of requiring compatibility with other forms of FAX or IFAX. I think that even the inclusion of the term FAX in the initiative name is outdated. PSTN FAX and IPPFAX are very different in use, capabilities and market. IPP FAX does not and should not try to emulate FAX; it is a distinctly different document transfer capability intended for a distinctly different world. 

I think IFAX has suffered from trying to tie internet fax and PSTN fax; I don't see why we should bother tieing into IFAX. In general, the IFAX groups, which have been working hard  on internetting fax and coming out with some ingenious if contorted solutions, do not recognize or appreciate the IPP approach. Tiff FX appeared to be convenient. But it still needed extensions and it has been plagued by intellectual property issues. I see no reason to "stick it out".

Of course, just my personal opinion.

Bill Wagner

-----Original Message-----
From: Gail Songer [mailto:gsonger at peerless.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:09 PM
To: ifx at pwg.org
Subject: IFX> TIFFFx


Hi,

During the last meeting, we had a very long discussion regarding TIFF-FX,
Adobe and IPPFax.  We agreed that it was at least time to consider
alternatives to TIFF-FX. We also wrote a note to Adobe explaining what we
intended to do with TIFF-FX and asked for their comments.  To date, we have
not heard back from them.

Ron Bergman volunteered to draw up a proposal providing an IPP solution to
identify the compression schemes used in the job.  He has indicated that he
will have something ready for the Portland meeting.  Another alternative
proposed was to use PDF as the required PDL.

I would like to get some feed back from the group.   What do you think of
the alternatives?
a) Stick it out with TIFF-FX
b) Use an IPP solution (or would prefer to wait until the proposal has been
given)
c) Use PDF
d) other (please specify)

Gail






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