IPP>NOT mailto feature from IETF meeting (RE: IPP> ADM - TheIPPNotification I-Ds will now go the IESG)]

IPP>NOT mailto feature from IETF meeting (RE: IPP> ADM - TheIPPNotification I-Ds will now go the IESG)]

IPP>NOT mailto feature from IETF meeting (RE: IPP> ADM - TheIPPNotification I-Ds will now go the IESG)]

pmoore at peerless.com pmoore at peerless.com
Thu Aug 17 15:34:38 EDT 2000


Actually IPP does define the keeping of job history - it simply makes it
optional (some printers cannot cope with it).




David_Kellerman at nls.com on 08/17/2000 11:47:59 AM

To:   kugler at us.ibm.com
cc:   ipp at pwg.org (bcc: Paul Moore/AUCO/US)

Subject:  Re: IPP>NOT mailto feature from IETF meeting (RE: IPP> ADM -
      TheIPPNotification I-Ds will now go the IESG)]



Carl,

> The problem with polling (with Get-Job-Attributes) is that many Printers
> forget about a Job as soon as it has reached a final state:  completed,
> aborted, or canceled.  So, on one poll you see the job is in 'processing'
> state, and on the next poll you get 'client-error-not-found', and you have
> no way of knowing what the final state of the Job was before it
> disappeared.

Okay, I'm obviously landing in the middle of a long discussion.
Apologies if I'm covering old ground.

What you describe is very, very sad.  Anyone who's worked with
lpr/lpd, and tried to deliver status or completion results has
cursed this deficiency in lpr/lpd -- the completed job vanishes.
Now here we are 25 years later, and we're propagating the same
shortcoming.

Moreover, we're trying to patch the problem with
machine-readable e-mail notification?  If this is important (and
it is), let's address the underlying problem.

And please don't anyone tell me about their $99 printer for
remote internet printing that can't cache a reasonable amount of
completed job status but does have the resources to deliver
multi-part MIME e-mail.  ;-)

David

::  David Kellerman         Northlake Software      503-228-3383
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