IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available

IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available

Manros, Carl-Uno B cmanros at cp10.es.xerox.com
Mon Apr 9 13:50:09 EDT 2001


Don,

Please note that the Media document was never part of the IPP WG work, it
was a separate task taken on by the PWG in response to a request from the
UPnP group. I hope that there will be a small slot somewhere in the overall
PWG agenda to look over the Media document and at least decide whether we
should have one or several documents before publishing.

Carl-Uno

Carl-Uno Manros
Manager, Print Services
Xerox Architecture Center - Xerox Corporation
701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231
Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514
Email: manros at cp10.es.xerox.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: don at lexmark.com [mailto:don at lexmark.com]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:04 AM
To: Manros, Carl-Uno B
Cc: Hastings, Tom N; 'Bergman, Ron'; 'RonBergman at aol.com';
'pwg at pwg.org'; 'ipp at pwg.org'
Subject: RE: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available




There is no IPP meeting scheduled for Portland at the request of the IPP
chair
nor is there a UPD meeting in Portland.  With IPP fax having only 3/4 of a
day,
I can't be sure there would be time to fit this discussion in there.  I do
not
want to entertain technical discussions at the Plenary as it is a business
meeting (not a technical one.)

So unless a small group wants to schedule an informal meeting one
evening......

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"Manros, Carl-Uno B" <cmanros%cp10.es.xerox.com at interlock.lexmark.com> on
04/06/2001 02:42:09 PM

To:   "Hastings, Tom N" <hastings%cp10.es.xerox.com at interlock.lexmark.com>,
      "'Bergman, Ron'" <Ron.Bergman%Hitachi-hkis.com at interlock.lexmark.com>,
      "'RonBergman at aol.com'" <RonBergman%aol.com at interlock.lexmark.com>
cc:   "'pwg at pwg.org'" <pwg%pwg.org at interlock.lexmark.com>, "'ipp at pwg.org'"
      <ipp%pwg.org at interlock.lexmark.com> (bcc: Don Wright/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject:  RE: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available



All,

As a last minute comment I would like to suggest extending the time to
finish this document to span the next PWG meeting.

It seems to me that there is still too much discussion and too many lose
ends to close and publish this document quite yet...

Carl-Uno

Carl-Uno Manros
Manager, Print Services
Xerox Architecture Center - Xerox Corporation
701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231
Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514
Email: manros at cp10.es.xerox.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Hastings, Tom N [mailto:hastings at cp10.es.xerox.com]
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:14 AM
To: 'Bergman, Ron'; 'RonBergman at aol.com'
Cc: 'pwg at pwg.org'; 'ipp at pwg.org'
Subject: RE: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available


Ron,

Unfortunately, I checked the wrong delivery service on the web site when I
ordered the ASME Y14.1M a week ago Friday and it is being delivered by truck
from New Jersey to LA and won't arrive until next Tuesday or Wednesday.  The
guy who I could get the numbers over the phone when home early today, so
we're out of luck.  I'm on vacation next week.

So maybe we add these sizes later, perhaps as a corrigendum or during last
call.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Hastings, Tom N
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 16:06
To: Bergman, Ron; Hastings, Tom N; RonBergman at aol.com
Cc: pwg at pwg.org; ipp at pwg.org
Subject: RE: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available


I just ordered a copy from the ASME.  It should be here next Tuesday.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Bergman, Ron [mailto:Ron.Bergman at Hitachi-hkis.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 07:38
To: 'Hastings, Tom N'; RonBergman at aol.com
Cc: pwg at pwg.org; ipp at pwg.org
Subject: RE: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available


Tom,

I do not have access to ASME-Y14.1M, so I am unable to do this
research.  Do you have a copy?

     Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: Hastings, Tom N [mailto:hastings at cp10.es.xerox.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 7:14 PM
To: RonBergman at aol.com
Cc: pwg at pwg.org; ipp at pwg.org
Subject: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available


IPP (RFC2911) has a number of media names that include engineering sizes
taken from [ASME-Y14.1M].  For some reason we only included them as media
names (e.g., iso-a1x3-transparent), and not as media size names (e.g.,
iso-a1x3) in IPP.  These size names are:

iso-a1x3, iso-a1x4
iso-a2x3, iso-a2x4, iso-a2x5
iso-a3x3, iso-a3x4, iso-a3x5, iso-a3x6, iso-a3x7
iso-a4x3, iso-a4x4, iso-a4x5, iso-a4x6, iso-a4x7, iso-a4x8, iso-a4x9

Should we add them?

Someone should look at [ASME-Y14.1M] and get the proper length dimensions
(which aren't in IPP), to go with the width dimensions which are in IPP.

Thanks,
Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: RonBergman at aol.com [mailto:RonBergman at aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 11:48
To: pwg at pwg.org; ipp at pwg.org
Subject: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available


The latest version is now available at:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/media-sizes/pwg-media-05.pdf

The major change is the merging of the envelope sizes
with the other tables and the separation of the media
type with the size.  In addition I have added the
definition of a format for custom media types and color
per a request from Norbert.

There are still two open issues that I am waiting for
clarification from Tom.

1. Tom added a reference [REG] in section 3, but no
corresponding entry in the References section.

2. The ABNF for the size name in section 5.1 may be
incorrect.  I am not an ABNF expert, but I believe that
    | "-" | "-" )  should be simply   | "-" )

I will try to attend the IPP teleconference tomorrow
to discuss any other issues concerning this document.

     Ron Bergman
     Hitachi Koki Imaging Solutions






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