JMP> HELD vs NEEDS-ATTENTION

JMP> HELD vs NEEDS-ATTENTION

Robert Herriot Robert.Herriot at Eng.Sun.COM
Thu May 22 21:53:40 EDT 1997


You might want to look at the changes that we made in the IPP job-state
at yesterday's meeting.  The current jobs states are:


                         ---> canceled
  pending -> processing -|--> aborted
                         ---> completed


Normally a job progresses only from left to right through three states.


held and retention became job-state-reasons.  The job MIB concept of
needs-attention is in IPP a job-state-reason: printer-stopped which a
job can have as a value of job-state-reasons when its job-state is
pending or processing.


We hoped that the Job MIB group would consider these changes in the
jobMIB as well.


Bob Herriot


> From jkm at underscore.com Thu May 22 17:56:58 1997
> 
> You raise a good point, Harry.  I think we really want the user
> to be able to distinguish between jobs not printing due to problems
> vs. administrative "hold" (no matter who put the job on hold).
> 
> One definition we'll have to nail down is NEEDS-ATTENTION.  Does
> that term imply device-only problems, or any kind of problem that
> keeps the job from printing (other than HELD)?
> 
> Given your statements, I'd vote for having NEEDS-ATTENTION imply
> _any_ kind of problem, and not just device-related problems.
> 
> Similarly, I'd suggest that HELD implies an administratively-set
> condition only.
> 
> Quick comments/votes by the others?  (Tick, tick, tick...)
> 
> 	...jay
> 
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> From jmp-owner at pwg.org Thu May 22 19:41 EDT 1997
> From: Harry Lewis <harryl at us.ibm.com>
> To: <jmp at pwg.org>
> Subject: JMP> HELD vs NEEDS-ATTENTION
> Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 19:42:38 -0400
> 
> Some of the job state reasons for HELD seem like they would fit better as
> reasons for NEEDS-ATTENTION. For example:
> 
>   requiredResourcesNotReady           0x20
>          The job is in the held state because at least one of the
>          resources needed by the job, such as media, fonts, resource
>          objects, etc., is not ready on any of the physical devices
>          for which the job is a candidate.
> 
> 
>      serviceOffLine                      0x400000
>          The service/document transform is off-line and accepting no
>          jobs.  All pending jobs are put into the held state.  This
>          could be true if its input is impaired or broken.
> 
> These reasons seem categorically different than "Someone put this
> job on Hold 'till midnight".
> 
> I guess it is fairly clear that state NeedsAttention should pertain to
> actual DEVICE failures, but 0x400000, above, sounds like it could
> be just that to me.
> 
> Harry Lewis - IBM Printing Systems
> 
> 
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