The message from Harald Tveit Alvestrand suggests that his
recommendation to not make the JOB Monitoring MIB standards track
might be based on a misunderstanding that the JMM is "a means of
users' access to information (as opposed to an administrator's
access)." SNMP for users rather than administrators apparently is a
point of contention.
However, I understand that the major purpose of the JMM is
administrator and administration agent access to printer utilization
information. Indeed, the inherent inappropriateness of SNMP for
extensive end user access would suggest that the JMM would be used by
an administrative agent for traffic monitoring and accounting purposes
and that the information may be relayed to the end user via something
like SENSE or the IBM or HP SNMP/HTTP capabilities.
However, another point implicit in the recommendation is that an
industry might know more about the needs of their product and their
customers than the IETF/IESG. There may be some merit in this.
Bill Wagner, Osicom/DPI
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Subject: Re: JMP> Re: PMP> IETF concerns regarding the Printer MIB dr
Author: Harry Lewis <harryl at us.ibm.com> at Internet
Date: 8/20/97 11:37 AM
Chris and Lloyd... I'm sure you would have informed the JMP promptly
had there been clear signals from the IESG. No doubt in my mind!
>If a clear decision had been made and communicated to us, we
>would certainly have forwarded it to the jmp list promptly.
>It is not productive to guess, speculate, and communicate
>partial information to the list that would just get people
>anxious and confused and turn out to be wrong in the final
>analysis.
Given where we are, however, does it seem at all feasible that we could be
considered "chartered" and, if not, what do we do now? My interpretation
of the IESG comments is that the authors should submit an informational
RFC describing the Job MIB and the PWG should maintain the standard. This
would be the first "PWG standard". Is the PWG ready for this?
Harry Lewis - IBM Printing Systems