You know, it's great that the Job MIB *could* (not *should*) apply
to, say, CD-ROM writers, FAX, etc.
But don't you think we're asking for trouble by "addressing" these
other devices when we really haven't opened discussions with those
standards groups involved with CD-ROM and FAX (if such groups exist)?
I mean, c'mon. We've been almost totally focused on PRINTERS for the
Job MIB. And even though some sort of CD-ROM software _may_ be able
to use the Job MIB...that's not the point.
We've designed the Job MIB for printers. If other devices can use it,
then fine. But we shouldn't try to make the reader feel that the Job
MIB is THE solution for anything other than printers.
My $0.02 worth, of course. Sorry, but I just had to mention this.
...jay
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:47:57 PDT
To: Ron Bergman <rbergma at dpc.com>
From: Tom Hastings <hastings at cp10.es.xerox.com>
Subject: Re: JMP> Open Editorial Changes From Rev. 0.83: 3. Definition
of "device"
Cc: jmp at pwg.org
At 16:59 08/20/97 PDT, Ron Bergman wrote:
snip...
>> >3. The definition for "Device" (page 14):
>> >
>> > "...interfaces to humans in human perceptible means, such as produces
>> > marks on paper, scans marks on paper to produce an electronic
>> > representations, or writes CD_ROMS..."
>> >
>> > The second two examples don't appear to be human perceptible. I am
>> > not sure I understand the reason for including other than the first
>> > example.
>>>> It is important to clarify that the device can produce other forms of
>> human perciptable output than just printing devices, as we agreed in
>> the requirements document. So I left these other examples in.
>>>How is scaning marks on paper or writing a CD ROM human perceptible?
>The only way you know for sure the operation was completed (or even
>started) was a message on display or a printer.
A scanner takes media that has human preceptible marks on it and scans
it. I agree that the CD ROM writer is not human perceptible.
The full definition for "device" from V0.83 is:
Device: a hardware entity that (1) interfaces to humans in human
perceptible means, such as produces marks on paper, scans marks on paper to
produce an electronic representations, or writes CD-ROMs or (2) interfaces
electronically to another device, such as sends FAX data to another FAX device.
But I feel that we need to make our definition agree with the requirements
that we worked on for so long that the MIB could also be used for jobs that
scan, jobs that write CD-ROMs, and jobs that send FAX, though the inclusion
of attributes for such jobs was beyond the scope of the current MIB.
So how about:
Device: a hardware entity that (1) interfaces to humans, such as produces
marks on paper or scans marks on paper, (2) accesses digitial media, such as
CD-ROMs, or (3) interfaces electronically to another device, such as sends
FAX data to another FAX device.
Tom
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