JMP> Re: Collated/Uncollated

JMP> Re: Collated/Uncollated

Ron Bergman rbergma at dpc.com
Thu Nov 20 13:48:40 EST 1997


Harry, Jay, et al,


Harry has posted the original request quite some time ago and I have not
seen any objections.  The new proposal is "close enough" to the original
that I doubt that it will raise any objections.


Unless a comment is received by the end of this week, the proposal is
declared accepted!!




	Ron




On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Jay Martin wrote:


> I haven't done due diligence on your proposal, Harry, but I believe
> the proposal is acceptable as presented.  It's also pretty apparent
> (or should be to most folks by now!) that you are not proposing
> "theoretical" additions; instead, these proposals are the direct
> result of IBM's current product development surrounding the proposed
> Job MIB.
> 
> Real world needs always out-weigh those proposals submitted in the
> vein of "just in case someone needs it"...  ;-)
> 
> Ron (Mr. Chairman): would a "deadline for objections" be possible
> so that Harry et al can get a better handle on planning?
> 
> 	...jay
> 
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> 
> Harry Lewis wrote:
> > 
> > I tried to send this a couple times... appoligize if older versions catch up
> > later.
> > 
> > There hasn't been a whole lot of discussion regarding my proposal (below) other
> > than Ron indicating he believes it should be accepted.
> > 
> > I would like to modify it slightly, in a manner which I believe better
> > accomplishes the goal of distinguishing between collated and uncollated copies
> > yet results in fewer changes to the Mib.
> > 
> > To put it as simply as I can, I propose to add
> > 
> > currentCopyNumber
> > currentDocumentNumber
> > copyType
> > 
> > and to keep
> > 
> > sheetsCompletedCurrentCopy
> > impressionsCompletedCurrentCopy
> > documentCopiesCompleted
> > jobCopiesCompleted
> > 
> > The example flows the same as before:
> > 
> > For a 3 impression job with a request for 3 copies.
> > 
> > Uncollated 3/3  (copyType = External Collation)
> > --------------
> > 
> > sheetsCompleted    sheetsCompletedCurrentCopy    currentCopyNumber
> > ---------------    --------------------------    -----------------
> > 1                  1                             1
> > 2                  1                             2
> > 3                  1                             3
> > 4                  2                             1
> > 5                  2                             2
> > 6                  2                             3
> > 7                  3                             1
> > 8                  3                             2
> > 9                  3                             3
> > 
> > Collated 3/3  (copyType = Internal Collation)
> > ------------
> > 
> > sheetsCompleted    sheetsCompletedCurrentCopy    currentCopyNumber
> > ---------------    --------------------------    -----------------
> > 1                  1                             1
> > 2                  2                             1
> > 3                  3                             1
> > 4                  1                             2
> > 5                  2                             2
> > 6                  3                             2
> > 7                  1                             3
> > 8                  2                             3
> > 9                  3                             3
> > 
> > The reason for the change from currentSheetNumber and currentImpressonNumber is
> > that there may be several sheets in the paper path, (different) impressions may
> > be ripping and printing at the same time etc. It's very hard to say which is
> > the "currentImpression" or "currentSheet" but easier to say which is the
> > current copy. It is easy to say which sheet has just completed (stacked).
> > 
> > Note that, while drivers should protect from this, it is theoretically possible
> > to mix collated and uncollated copies (try it with your favorite printer...
> > it's fun!). At this point, attributes like current copy really break down. We
> > feel, rather then try and define even more attributes to handle this
> > pathological case we should just say behavior of the MIB, at this point, is
> > device specific.
> > 
> > Harry Lewis
> 



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