[MFD] Re: MFD Service Operations

[MFD] Re: MFD Service Operations

William Wagner wamwagner at comcast.net
Tue Mar 30 23:35:37 UTC 2010


Nancy, 

 

Thanks you for your prompt comments.

 

As you may notice in my original message, I have posted both *pdf and *.doc
versions.

 

I suggest the question of whether operations are to listed a required or
optional  should be in the Overall document or in the specific service
documents be an item of discussion. I was troubled by the position that we
state them as required in the Overall document with the understanding that
they may not be applicable to a given service.

 

Bill Wagner

 

From: Nancy.Chen at okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen at okidata.com] 
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Subject: Re: [MFD] Re: MFD Service Operations

 


Bill, 

Also please provide microsoft "WORD" version for people to annotate their
comments. Not all of us have the luxury of owning a copy of writable PDF
editor. 

Thanks, 
-Nancy 





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Hi Bill,

Thanks again for the updated "MFD Service Operations" with clearly marked
issues for discussion in the upcoming meeting.

In many of our previous MFD meetings, we worked hard to come to basic
consensus on whether a service operation is "REQUIRED", or "OPTIONAL".  I
think the document should reflect these working group status, as a good
basis for further discussions.  It's not a final draft of course, anybody
can still challenge what have agreed so far.

I recommend that you follow the convention set in the Copy Service
specification which is in WG Last Call, by "bold" face the "REQUIRED"
operations and input/output parameters to reflect the current working
group progresses. The rest are OPTIONAL.

Again, thanks for helping us making progress,

-Nancy




"William Wagner" <wamwagner at comcast.net>
03/30/2010 06:30 PM

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MFD Service Operations






In response to Nancy's comments , I have reposted the Service Operations
text in



ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/white/ServiceOperations-20100330.pdf  and

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/white/ServiceOperations-20100330.doc



There are NO changes to the text content.



One reason why this has been extracted as a separate "white" paper
document
rather than included as part of the "overall" spec is to allow
concentration
on this particular and very important aspect of the MFD services. I have
modified this section extensively, and have approached it as a new
document
because the changes have been continuing for a long period as the various
services are considered and as IPP has added operations. Therefore,  there
is a definite possibility of errors in continuity and inter-relation.
Although I appreciate the added effort necessary, I therefore also request
that this section be reviewed in its entirety, not just for what the
changes
are.

Except for one brand new table, I have not flagged changes. As I have
indicated previously, I believe that in enough cases the general MFD
operation must be considered differently from the IPP precursor operation
because of the Print specific nature of the IPP Precursor. I believe that
the MFD document should be able to stand on its own in this area.
Considering the general nature of the MFD Overall document, it is not
obvious how detailed the operation description can or needs to be, and
that
is a subject for discussion.



In some cases where I am unsure of the information I have been given, I
have
put in remarks. I have formatted the PDF with balloon remarks so that the
remarks are visible ( with apologies to those who can't abide balloons).



Red highlights are mainly markers for me noting that cross references are
bad as a result of extracting this from the larger document.



Other highlights have been removed.



I appreciate constructive comments and anticipate that this section will
be
reviewed with problems resolved at the 6 April face-to-face meeting.



Thanks,



Bill Wagner





From: Nancy.Chen at okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen at okidata.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:24 AM
To: William Wagner
Cc: mfd at pwg.org; mfd-bounces at pwg.org
Subject: Re: [MFD] Today's MWD conference call




Bill,

Thanks for your document update. I think many people are like me are
scratching their heads guessing and trying to understand the meaning of
various color markings in your document. Would you please do the
followings
so that WG members can easily review and provide comments for your latest
update to "Service Operations"?

1. Please provide a "WORD" version so that we can make comments right in
the
document.

2. Please explain your intent for the highlights in different colors. I
like
very much what Tom Hasting did for us in his IPP JPS2 draft. There is
clear
explanation of the different color highlights at the beginning of the
document before we proceed to read. Could you follow what Tom is doing for
IPP Working Group, so that we can provide very good review for your
document
without trying to guess what kind of comments you are expecting at those
markings. Perhaps following Tom's color code would be even better, because
then we don't have to remember different color codes for "consensus",
"issue", "question", "new changes", etc.

3. Please provide the text for your notes that are labeled [W1], [W2],
etc.

Thank you for helping us out,

-Nancy

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I noticed that a table was missing in the "operations" section, so I added
it in the attached. No other significant changes. I am looking forward to
a
constructive conversation this afternoon.



Thanks,



Bill Wagner


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