[MFD] Update - MFD Teleconference tomorrow 3pm and Updated agenda

[MFD] Update - MFD Teleconference tomorrow 3pm and Updated agenda

William Wagner wamwagner at comcast.net
Wed Nov 17 18:07:13 UTC 2010


An edition of the newly renamed MFD Model and Common Semantics (previously
known as and still file-named MFD Overall) is posted at: 

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/wd-mfdoverallmod10-20101117.pdf 

with a docx file at:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/wd-mfdoverallmod10-20101117.docx

and a red-lined docx file at:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/wd-mfdoverallmod10-20101117RL.docx

 

1.     The changes include those to Chapter 8 and beyond identified in the
Nov 4 concall and changes to the changes made in response to the F2F
comments identified in the Nov 4 concall. (In short, my attempt to address
all comments that I could)

2.     The changes include Nancy's contribution on Security

3.     The red-line is included for levity. Changes are so extensive that
this version is not very comprehensible. In the non-relined versions, I have
highlighted in yellow those areas that I have rewritten, highlighted in
items that I have questions on, and inserted comments. Similarly, I have not
updated the Document Revisions section.

4.     Many of the issues are related to the questions below.

Thanks,

 

Bill Wagner

 

From: Nancy.Chen at okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen at okidata.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:43 PM
To: Zehler, Peter
Cc: blueroofmusic at gmail.com; mfd at pwg.org; wamwagner at comcast.net
Subject: Reminder - MFD Teleconference tomorrow 3pm and Updated agenda

 


All, 

On behalf of Peter Zehler, here is a reminder for tomorrow's MFD
teleconference with updated agenda. 

There will be an MFD conference call at 3:00 PM EST (12:00 PM PST)
Thursday November 18.  Below is the proposed agenda (UPDATED TODAY)


The meeting is held in accord with the PWG Intellectual Property Policy.


teleconference:

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239

Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300

Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570

Attendee access code: (by request only, please contact me if you do not
have
it)


Live Meeting:

<https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join?id=PWG-MFD&role=attend&pw=Let
MeIn>


Agenda:

1. Identify Minute Taker

2. Approval of minutes from 10/4/10 meeting
<ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/minutes/pwg-mfd-minutes-20101104.pdf>

3. Agenda bashing

4. Discuss current issues with MFD model (See below)

5. Discuss outstanding Overall Specification issues. 

6. Discuss the suggested Security Considerations by Nancy 
<ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/Suggested-text-for-Security-Considerations
-for-MFD-Model-and-Common-Semantics-20101117.pdf> 

7. Next steps


Current MFD Model issues:

1.     Scan Job Status,  EmailOut Job Status, FaxOut Job Status , have
both ImagesCompleted and the full set of <Service>JobCounters which
includes several Images counters. Print Job Status, Copy Job Status,
FaxIn Job Status and  EmailIn Job Status do not include an impressions
completed, but do include the <Service>JobCounters

<PZ>PrintJobStatus does include ImpressionsCompleted.  Copy should as
well.  Email In and FaxIn may need ImagesCompleted since the processing
of a job may not result in hard copy out.  Those jobs always accept some
number of images.</PZ>

2.     Are the Service Elements the same counters as Job oriented
counter values or are they separate?   If they are separate, does
persistence have any significance?

<PZ>Job counters have a scope of a single job.  Service counters have a
scope of all the jobs processed by the service.  At this time all
service/job related counters share a common data type.  The recent
change to accommodate persistence had a side effect I missed.  The
resolution is either to redefine the job level counters or to mandate a
lifetime value for the persistence.  I prefer the former resolution.
Another side effect is that Job counters have counts only applicable to
a service (i.e., Availability, Monitoring).  I believe the data types
for the Job/Document counters needs to be corrected.  It should be
discussed next week at the MFD meeting.</PZ>

3.     What is the difference between  the Images Completed count and
the Work Images count?

<PZ>It is my opinion that ImagesCompleted and ImpressionCompleted should
map to the counters DataStream Images/Impressions count.  My assumption
is that the status level simple counter would be used by applications to
show work progress.  This should be discussed next week as well.</PZ>

4.     Why is there a separate  images completed counter for some
Services, but none (or no corresponding impressions counter) for others?

<PZ>Late night editing sessions...constant interruptions to do my day
job...service by service definition as opposed to an overall approach.
Bottom line is that I think it needs to be fixed.</PZ>

5.     Should JobAccountingSheets, JobErrorSheets, JobSheetsCol be
aligned with InsertSheet? (i.e. definition of media as a choice between
MediaCol or a sequence of Media & MediaTypye)?

Peter Zehler 





"Zehler, Peter" <Peter.Zehler at xerox.com> 

11/17/2010 08:05 AM 


To

<Nancy.Chen at okidata.com> 


cc

<blueroofmusic at gmail.com>, <mfd at pwg.org>, <wamwagner at comcast.net> 


Subject

RE: suggested text for Security Considerations for MFD Model and Common
Semantics

 

		



Could someone post a pdf version and announce the addition to the MFD
agenda?  (I am still rebuilding a system and have not yet regained my
ability to generate pdf.)

Thanks,

Pete





Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler at Xerox.com <mailto:Peter.Zehler at Xerox.com>
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701



From: Nancy.Chen at okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen at okidata.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:03 AM
To: Zehler, Peter
Cc: blueroofmusic at gmail.com; mfd at pwg.org; wamwagner at comcast.net
Subject: RE: suggested text for Security Considerations for MFD Model
and Common Semantics




Yes. Let's discuss this at tomorrow's teleconference.

-Nancy




"Zehler, Peter" <Peter.Zehler at xerox.com>

11/17/2010 07:13 AM

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<Nancy.Chen at okidata.com>, <wamwagner at comcast.net>,
<blueroofmusic at gmail.com>

cc

<mfd at pwg.org>

Subject

RE: suggested text for Security Considerations for MFD Model and Common
Semantics







Should this be discussed at tomorrow's MFD teleconference?





Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler at Xerox.com <mailto:Peter.Zehler at Xerox.com>
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701



From: Nancy.Chen at okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen at okidata.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:16 PM
To: wamwagner at comcast.net; Zehler, Peter; blueroofmusic at gmail.com
Cc: mfd at pwg.org
Subject: suggested text for Security Considerations for MFD Model and
Common Semantics




Hi Bill, Pete, and Ira,

The attached file is my suggested text for Security Considerations that
have incorporated the original sections you supplied.


I have added everything important and made the section more complete,
mainly based on the requirements from IEEE 2600, with considerations of
those developed in PWG IDS, and the support the MFD Model has for all
Services.

I have not included the considerations for Cloud Security. But these are
still under development in IDS.  These still need to be added in the
future. I will think about what can be added in general at this point.

Any consideration need to be added from TCG?

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
-Nancy
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Principal Engineer
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