Hi Dennis,
Thanks for all those good comments. My responses are
inline below.
I will NOT be able to update this sequence with your
feedback before this Thursday's process telecon.
I'm operating on zero sleep. And I have two more
all-night telecons with FSG Japan tonight and
tomorrow night. I'll try to attend the Thursday
process telecon.
Cheers,
- Ira
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Carney [mailto:dcarney at us.ibm.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 12:32 PM
To: pwg at pwg.org
Cc: McDonald, Ira
Subject: RE: PWG> Annotated sequence of PWG document filenames
Hi Ira,
Good writeup!
A few comments:
- Entries should be added for when a draft becomes an full standard. And
probably for what happens after that if something needs to be changed.
<ira> Agree
- ABNF and example entries should be added for the working group charter.
<ira> Agree
- I was surprised that your ABNF did not force "whitefile"s to have the
"abc10" substring in the filename. Was this an oversight or done on purpose?
<ira> Open on purpose - because an individual contributor could write a
white paper at any time on any topic, outside a chartered working group.
- I was surprised to see the Requirements doc becoming a Candidate Standard,
including even getting a "standard number" (510x.y). I guess it makes sense,
since it has to go through a last call and formal vote, but somehow it seems
wrong. For example, would the Requirements doc have to progress to full
standard before the protocol can progress to full standard--I wouldn't have
thought so. Also, since the charter needs formal approval, it would also go
to Candidate Standard in this plan. Does this bother anyone else?
<ira> Process/2.0 REQUIRES the Requirements to be adopted with Formal Vote
and
document number. As has just been done with several requirements
documents.
About charter - NO it should not get a document number - just a Formal
Vote.
- In the last example entry (#22), the filename should probably have 5109.3
instead of 5109.2, shouldn't it?
<ira> No - a PWG protocol gets a single document number forever, just
like IEEE and ISO standards do. New versions MUST not change the
document number (only the date and major/minor version parts).
- Did we agree that there would be "readme"/"status" files in the various
directories? For example, there might be a file in the "candidates"
directory that said for a given standard whether it was currently being
revised (that is, had a newer 'wd' file in another directory). If we want to
do this, this should be added to your example entries--for example, entry
#11 might have another line like:
- .../candidates/current_status.doc/pdf updated to state work in progress on
ABC/1.0 protocol
<ira> Agree - I'll look into this.
Dennis Carney
IBM Printing Systems
"McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald at sharplabs.com>
"McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald at sharplabs.com>
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RE: PWG> Annotated sequence of PWG document filenames
Hi,
A reminder that the sequence of filenames below should
be reviewed tomorrow at the process telecon, if possible.
Cheers,
- Ira
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com
-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald at sharplabs.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:10 PM
To: 'pwg at pwg.org'
Subject: PWG> Annotated sequence of PWG document filenames
Hi, Saturday (6 March 2004)
Per our discussion at last Thursday's PWG Process telecon, below is a
sequence of document filenames, created by a hypothetical PWG working
group 'ABC', showing the 'life cycle' of PWG documents:
(a) development of requirements document;
(b) development of protocol document;
(c) editorial update of protocol document - same minor version
- WITHOUT parameter, encoding, attribute, or value changes;
(d) technical update of protocol document - new minor version
- WITH parameter, encoding, attribute, or value changes.
Notes:
(1) A commented ABNF for PWG document filenames is specified below.
(2) Working drafts of previous Candidate Standards undergoing revision
SHOULD drop their standards number (51xy.z) until the revised
document is finally approved by Formal Vote.
(3) The file prefix 'wp' (white paper) has been combined with 'tb'
(technical brief) as the common informal note document type
(also, 'wp' was too close to 'wd' for clarity).
(4) The file prefix 'dg' (developer's guide) has been combined with
'bp' (best practice) and SHOULD require a Formal Vote of approval
(because it uses SHOULD and SHOULD NOT).
(5) IETF concept of 'class' is introduced, with 'white paper', 'draft',
and 'standards track' document types (see ABNF below).
(6) ISO/W3C concept of 'edition' is introduced, appended to major/minor
version (in document titles ONLY, not filenames), to disambiguate
purely editorial revisions (see examples in sequence below).
Comments?
Cheers,
- Ira
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------
PWG document filename ABNF (see RFC 2234 for ABNF types used below):
pwgfilename = whitefile / draftfile / stdfile
whitefile = whitepfx "-" 1*(lowalpha / digit / "-") "-" date "." ext
draftfile = draftpfx "-" wg [spec] version "-" date "." ext
stdfile = stdpfx "-" wg [spec] version "-" date "-" stdnum "." ext
whitepfx = "faq" / ; frequently asked questions
"ht" / ; hints & tips (no SHOULD/MUST)
"tb" ; technical brief (note)
draftpfx = "wd" / ; working draft
"lcrc" ; last call review comments
stdpfx = "std" / ; Standard (w/ MUST)
"cs" / ; Candidate Standard (w/ MUST)
"bp" ; Best Practice (w/ SHOULD)
wg = 2*(lowalpha) ; working group email list
spec = 2*(lowalpha) ; omitted for base protocol
version = major minor ; version of protocol/interface
major = 1*digit ; NEED NOT be compatible
minor = 1digit ; MUST be backwards compatible
date = year month day ; 8-digit date
year = 4digit
month = 2digit
day = 2digit
stdnum = "51" 2digit "." 1*digit ; IEEE/ISTO PWG standard number
ext = "doc" / ; MS Word document source
"htm" / ; HTML document source
"pdf" / ; Adobe PDF document formatted
"txt" / ; UTF-8 document plaintext
"xml" / ; XML document source
"xsd" / ; XML schema source
1*3lowalpha ; other 1-3 character extension
------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) ABC WG is chartered
- with the 'abc at pwg.org' mailing list name
2) ABC WG directories are created, including:
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/abc - primary directory
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/abc/wd - working drafts
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/abc/white - FAQs/technical briefs/hints
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/abc/schemas - XML schemas
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/abc/minutes - minutes of WG meetings
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/abc/slides - slides and presentations
3) first draft ABC requirements (working draft)
- .../abc/wd/wd-abcreq10-20040505.doc/pdf
4) last draft to PWG Announce - 30 day 'last call' (working draft)
- .../abc/wd/wd-abcreq10-20040814.doc/pdf
5) last draft to PWG Announce - 30 day Formal Vote (working draft)
- .../abc/wd/wd-abcreq10-20040814.doc/pdf
6) "PWG ABC Requirments/1.0 - 1st Edition" (Candidate Standard)
- .../candidates/cs-abcreq10-20041108-5109.1.doc/pdf
7) first draft ABC protocol (working draft)
- .../abc/wd/wd-abc10-20041212.doc/pdf
8) last draft to PWG Announce - 30 day 'last call' (working draft)
- .../abc/wd/wd-abc10-20050404.doc/pdf
9) last draft to PWG Announce - 30 day Formal Vote (working draft)
- .../abc/wd/wd-abc10-20050404.doc/pdf
10) "PWG ABC Protocol/1.0 - 1st Edition" (Candidate Standard)
- .../candidates/cs-abc10-20050715-5109.2.doc/pdf
11) first draft ABC protocol update (working draft)
- ONLY editorial revisions - same minor version
- .../abc/wd/wd-abc10-20050802.doc/pdf
12) last draft to PWG Announce - 30 day 'last call' (working draft)
- .../abc/wd/wd-abc10-20051005.doc/pdf
13) last call review comments - with embedded issues and resolutions
- .../abc/wd/lcrc-abc10-20051105.doc/pdf
14) last draft to PWG Announce - 30 day Formal Vote (working draft)
- .../abc/wd/wd-abc10-20051120.doc/pdf
15) "PWG ABC Protocol/1.0 - 2nd Edition" (Candidate Standard)
- .../candidates/cs-abc10-20051225-5109.2.doc/pdf
16) technical brief about ABC protocol performance (white paper)
- .../abc/white/tb-abc10-performance-20060113.doc/pdf
17) FAQ about ABC protocol (white paper)
- .../abc/white/faq-abc10-20060220.doc/pdf
18) first draft ABC protocol update (working draft)
- technical revisions - new minor version
- .../abc/wd/wd-abc11-20060310.doc/pdf
19) last draft to PWG Announce - 30 day 'last call' (working draft)
- .../abc/wd/wd-abc11-20060812.doc/pdf
20) last call review comments - with embedded issues and resolutions
- .../abc/wd/lcrc-abc11-20060912.doc/pdf
21) last draft to PWG Announce - 30 day Formal Vote (working draft)
- .../abc/wd/wd-abc11-20060930.doc/pdf
22) "PWG ABC Protocol/1.1 - 1st Edition" (Candidate Standard)
- .../candidates/cs-abc11-20061123-5109.2.doc/pdf