XP> Request for discussion of the interactions of EXIF orientation ma rkers and a CSS image orientation property

XP> Request for discussion of the interactions of EXIF orientation ma rkers and a CSS image orientation property

ElliottBradshaw at oaktech.com ElliottBradshaw at oaktech.com
Tue Jan 7 09:42:10 EST 2003


Me too.

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Elliott Bradshaw
Director, Software Engineering
Oak Technology Imaging Group
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                                          interactions of EXIF    orientation ma rkers and a   
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Jim:

I agree to:

1) Make the processing of EXIF markers optional.
2) State that any (future?) XHTML or CSS markup affecting image orientation
shall take precedence over the EXIF markers

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"BIGELOW,JIM (HP-Boise,ex1)" <jim.bigelow at hp.com>@pwg.org on 01/06/2003
09:01:28 PM

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Subject:    XP> Request for discussion of the interactions of EXIF
       orientation ma   rkers and a CSS image orientation property


Hello,

The XHTML-Print specification states how an enhanced layout printer should
handle EXIF markers in JPEG images
(http://www.pwg.org/xhtml-print/HTML-Version/XHTML-Print.html#a_jpeg.3).

   A JPEG decoder for an XHTML-Print implementation which
   supports the Enhanced Layout Extension shall decode the
   TIFF IFDs embedded in the EXIF APP1 and APP2 markers, as
   described in Section 2.6.4 of [JEIDA]. The following IFDs
   shall be fully supported (i.e. they shall not be ignored).
   Tag Name: Image Orientation
   Field Name: Orientation
   Description: Sets image orientation in 90-degree increments,
                and enables transposition.

This requirement was discussed at the April and June 2002  meetings.  See
http://www.pwg.org/xhtml-print/minutes/Minutes-June-24-2002.html and
http://www.pwg.org/xhtml-print/minutes/Minutes-April-17-2002.txt The June
meeting decide to make the processing of EXIF markers optional.  Therefore,
text above should be changed to say "may decode" from "shall decode" and
"shall be fully supported (i.e., shall not be ignored)." becomes "may be
supported."

   A JPEG decoder for an XHTML-Print implementation which
   supports the Enhanced Layout Extension may decode the
   TIFF IFDs embedded in the EXIF APP1 and APP2 markers, as
   described in Section 2.6.4 of [JEIDA]. The following IFDs
   may be supported.
   Tag Name: Image Orientation
   Field Name: Orientation
   Description: Sets image orientation in 90-degree increments,
                and enables transposition.


Melinda Grant posed a question in the June meeting about optional support
for EXIF markers and a future CSS property that specified image orientation
and how the two would interact.  The CSS working group of the W3C is
currently considering an image orientation property, so this concern could
come up in one to two years.

I propose that a CSS property, if present, take precedence over the image's
EXIF orientation markers.

Comments?

Jim Bigelow,
Editor: XHTML-Print & CSS Print Profile
IEEE, Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org/xhtml-print
Hewlett-Packard
208-396-2068
jim.bigelow at hp.com











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