IPP Mail Archive: Re: IPP> MOD - NLO 4 of 4: Vote to always use the Natural

IPP Mail Archive: Re: IPP> MOD - NLO 4 of 4: Vote to always use the Natural

Re: IPP> MOD - NLO 4 of 4: Vote to always use the Natural

Hugo Parra (HPARRA@novell.com)
Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:07:19 -0700

This proposal has my vote.

>>> "Hastings, Tom N" <hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com> 10/21/98 09:53AM >>>
Summary: This mail messages proposes to remove the 'textWithoutLanguage'
and 'nameWithoutLanguage' attribute syntaxes and require all 'text' and
'name' attributes to always explicitly include the natural language using
the 'textWithLanguage' and 'nameWithLanguage' syntaxes.

* The proposal to vote on is to require all attributes to always
* use the 'textWithLanguage' and 'nameWithLanguage' forms
* and to delete the 'textWithoutLanguage' and=20
* 'nameWithoutLanguage' forms.
* Please indicate your acceptance or rejection of this=20
* proposal on the mailing list by Monday, Nov 2.

This change will affect implementations that correctly implement the June
1998 Mode and Semantics specification. Implementations that only support
the 'textWithoutLanguage' and 'nameWithoutLanguage' would need to be =
to conform to either the June specification or this proposal (and changing
to this proposal would be easier than the June specification which =
supporting both forms of 'text' and both forms of 'name').


Currently requests and responses that supply 'text' and 'name' attributes =
a different natural language than that supplied for the request or =
as a whole as indicated in the "attributes-natural-language" Operation
attribute MUST include the different natural language explicitly as an
override (and MAY include it explicitly even when they are the same --
according to the NLO 2 of 4 clarification). =20

This proposal is to change the Natural Language Override mechanism so that
the 'text' attribute syntax is only 'textWithLanguage' and the 'name'
attribute syntax is only 'nameWithLanguage'. In other words, each 'text'
and 'name' attribute would always contain the natural language explicitly =
part of the value. (The Encoding and Transport specification - PRO -
specifies that 'textWithLanguage' and 'nameWithLanguage' values MUST be
encoded as 2 octets of length, the natural-language string, 2 octets of
length, and the text or name value.)

Eliminating one of the two forms of 'text' and one of the two forms of
'name' attribute syntax will simplify comparison in job validation, since
the "xxx" attribute syntax code would have to match the corresponding

The PRO document would simply delete the 'textWithoutLanguage' and
'nameWithoutLanguage' attribute syntaxes.

This proposal does not change any other parts of the Model:

1. The "attributes-natural-language" operation attribute in requests MUST
still be supplied by the client to indicate its preference for natural
language to be returned in responses as currently specified in Section and =20

Rationale: So that an implementation that implements the OPTIONAL
"status-message" response attribute will know which natural language to =

2. For create operations, the IPP Printer MUST still copy the
"attributes-natural-language" operation attribute supplied by the client =
the job object as currently specified in Section

Rationale: Subsequent communication with the submitting user, such as
operator messages, notification using e-mail, and the job-sheets MAY want =
use the natural language of the job submitter.

3. All responses MUST return the "attributes-natural-language" operation
attribute as specified in, though it no longer has any effect on =
interpretation of any of the returned attributes.=20

Rationale: no need to change this behavior, since all implementations =
to be doing it. Removing it would save only 37-40 octets per response.

Tom Hastings
(310) 333-6413