IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> IPP over other transports

IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> IPP over other transports

RE: IPP> IPP over other transports

From: Satoshi Fujitani (fujitani@isp.rp.ricoh.co.jp)
Date: Tue Apr 25 2000 - 21:59:12 EDT

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    Hi Henrik,

    I think I need a consideration for "i-mode" to map ipp on BlueTooth.
    As you know, "i-mode" provided by NTT DoCoMo is the famous service for
    phones to internet and e-mail in Japan. Over 5 million people use this
    service
    now and it is increasing users quickly.
    "i-mode" is yet another service to WAP/WAE.

    Satoshi FUJITANI
    RICOH Co.,LTD. Tokyo Japan
    fujitani@isp.rp.ricoh.co.jp

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org]On Behalf
    > Of henrik.holst@i-data.com
    > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 9:51 PM
    > To: ipp@pwg.org
    > Subject: Re: IPP> IPP over other transports
    >
    > Exactly, for that reason would it be nice to map IPP on
    > WAP/WAE and not HTTP/TCP
    > because the phones contains the WAP/WAE stack.
    >
    > Henrik
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    > don@lexmark.com on 25-04-2000 13:36:11
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    > To: Henrik Holst/INT@i-data
    > cc: ipp@pwg.org
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    > Subject: Re: IPP> IPP over other transports
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    > My point is that MOST bluetooth phones will probably NOT have
    > TCP... only UDP.
    > While the bluetooth spec may support it, if it is not in most
    > phones than
    > mandating it for printing won't be very successful.
    >
    > Don Wright
    >
    > Director, Strategic & Technical Alliances
    > Lexmark International, C14/035-3
    > phone: 859-232-4808 fax: 603-963-8352
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    > henrik.holst%i-data.com@interlock.lexmark.com on 04/25/2000
    > 03:46:45 AM
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    > To: ipp%pwg.org@interlock.lexmark.com
    > cc: (bcc: Don Wright/Lex/Lexmark)
    > Subject: Re: IPP> IPP over other transports
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    > It's right you could run IP over Bluetooth. Today there is
    > only one profile
    > describing how
    > to implement a LAN access point, not a really LAN on
    > Bluetooth, but is just a
    > matter of time
    > before this profile will be finished. But I am not sure the
    > mobil phones and the
    > PDA's will
    > implement a whole TCP/IP stack just for printing. They have a
    > WAP stack, so I
    > think they
    > would preferred to reuse the stack for printing to.
    >
    > Henrik
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    > "Paul Moore" <pmoore@peerless.com> on 19-04-2000 18:09:17
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    > To: Henrik Holst/INT@i-data
    > cc: ipp@pwg.org
    >
    > Subject: Re: IPP> IPP over other transports
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    > Regarding bluetooth - my assumption was that there would be
    > IP over BT. Then we
    > can do plain old IPP rather than inventing something new - or
    > am I missing
    > something here.
    >
    > Regarding IR - the good thing about it is that ~100% of
    > laptops and many PDAs
    > have it today - and yet it is poorly exploited anywhere.
    > Secondly it is an
    > inherently point and shoot interface which make it ideal for
    > things like
    > printing where you are communicating with a specific piece of
    > hardware as
    > opposed to a virtualized service. I know there is IP over IR
    > but that does not
    > seem to be widely used.
    >
    > Carl-uno I think that we should put 'exotic transports' on
    > the agenda of an IPP
    > meeting soon becuase there is obviuosly interest and it is
    > not in anybody's
    > interest to have this fragment into lots separate efforts.
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    > henrik.holst@i-data.com on 04/19/2000 01:42:25 AM
    >
    > To: ipp@pwg.org
    > cc: (bcc: Paul Moore/AUCO/US)
    >
    > Subject: IPP> IPP over other transports
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    > A last IPP meeting, I can see you discussed the topic 'IPP over other
    > transports'
    > and that Paul Moore metioned the infrared transport. In
    > i-data we are working on
    > the new wireless technoligy BlueTooth. I think in a few years
    > you will not
    > anymore
    > see the use of infrared soulutions anymore, but it will be
    > BlueTooth. Ericsson,
    > Nokia
    > and the PDU's are going to implement BlueTooth in their
    > products. In i-data we
    > are working on a LAN profile to Bluetooth as well as on a
    > Printing Profile. Our
    > solution for printing over Bluetooth will be to use IPP over
    > WAP. WAP is
    > implemented
    > in some mobil phones today, and will be widely spread by the
    > years. WAP looks
    > like
    > a lot like HTTP. So I think it would be interesting to run
    > IPP on the top of
    > WAP. You
    > would then be able to print from your PDA or mobil phone.
    >
    > Henrik
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