IPP Mail Archive: IPP> RE: NOT - mailto Delivery Method and

IPP> RE: NOT - mailto Delivery Method and SMS [I changed the Subject o f this thread]

From: Hastings, Tom N (hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com)
Date: Wed Jul 12 2000 - 03:18:48 EDT

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    Anthony,

    Please look at the latest mailto delivery method. See the examples. The
    Subject line has most of the message (and my comment was that it could
    contain the missing piece of information, namely, the name of the printer by
    tacking:

       on printer xxx

    to the end of the subject line.

    The body could be a repeat of the Subject line. But an interesting issue,
    is why both having a body at all? If we didn't have a body, then the
    current mailto scheme would also work for SMS.

    ISSUE: Why not eliminate the message body from the mailto Delivery Method so
    it could be used as is for SMS?

    Thanks,
    Tom

    -----Original Message-----
    From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald@sharplabs.com]
    Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 09:39
    To: 'Anthony.Porter@xeikon.com'; McDonald, Ira;
    cmanros@cp10.es.xerox.com; ipp@pwg.org; sasaki@jci.co.jp
    Subject: RE: IPP> ADM - Pick your favorite notification delivery method
    by July 7

    Hi Anthony,

    Thanks for all that detailed info. I agree that simply
    specifying a general short message service behavior for
    IPP is useful. But for IETF standardization of well-known
    delivery methods (for IPP notifications) we need an I-D
    and ultimately an RFC.

    Cheers,
    - Ira

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Anthony.Porter@xeikon.com [mailto:Anthony.Porter@xeikon.com]
    Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 2:04 AM
    To: imcdonald@sharplabs.com; Anthony.Porter@xeikon.com;
    cmanros@cp10.es.xerox.com; ipp@pwg.org; sasaki@jci.co.jp
    Subject: RE: IPP> ADM - Pick your favorite notification delivery method
    by July 7

    > Hi Anthony,
    > Have you read RFC 2805 'URLs for Telephony' (April 2000)?

    Yes I did (but it is RFC 2806) It is fine to use 2806, but in any case the
    numbers for SMS are quite simple and invariably follow the recommendations
    of 2806, with the exception of the tel: scheme.

    I dont think that IPP need refer to SMS as such at all. It is enough to
    have a generic "short message" notification method with a URL that could be
    a telephone number. It could still be an email-address. The difference
    between this service and the email notification is that the destination is a
    device that would prefer a short message rather than a long one. It could
    be a pager or an i-mode phone, or simply an email client where the user
    would prefer a short message rather than a long one. The notification would
    be restricted to a subject line with no body.

    i-mode phones do not have a length restriction, but the user pays per packet
    of 128 bytes (which I think is around 50 Japanese characters), and the
    format of the device means that a short message is easier to handle. The
    user of an i-mode phone could still elect to receive a verbose email
    notification.

    If the URL is a telephone number, then I think that SMS is the only common
    messaging system that works internationaly without extra expense for the
    sender. There are some alternatives, but by and large they only work
    nationaly and the sender can recognise them by the number. For example the
    Belgian pager system uses a special area code, so a Belgian print service
    could in theory recognize a pager and treat it separately from an SMS
    number, but the service is practically obsolete.

    There is a protocol, SMPP, for sending SMS messages over TCP/IP, but it is
    not an IETF protocol

    Anthony



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