IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> Document Object Spec Comments...

IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> Document Object Spec Comments...

RE: IPP> Document Object Spec Comments... [Validate-Job for each document vs. Create-Document/Send-Data]

From: McDonald, Ira (imcdonald@sharplabs.com)
Date: Fri May 23 2003 - 11:27:56 EDT

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    Hi Tom,

    Thanks for the correction - yes, we agreed to move Close-Job to the
    new 'futures' spec as OPTIONAL, to preserve the semantics for use
    in a (possible) future IPP/1.2.

    Cheers,
    - Ira

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Hastings, Tom N [mailto:hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com]
    Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:02 PM
    To: McDonald, Ira; 'Michael Sweet'; Hastings, Tom N
    Cc: Dennis Carney; ipp@pwg.org
    Subject: RE: IPP> Document Object Spec Comments... [Validate-Job for
    each document vs. Create-Document/Send-Data]

    Ira,

    Thanks for summarizing the agreements and the next steps.

    Correct me if I mis-understood, but I think we agreed today to move the
    Close-Job operation out of the Job Extensions spec and into the futures spec
    where it would be OPTIONAL. Possibly, when we do IPP/1.2, we might make
    Close-Job REQUIRED (or we might reference Close-Job as OPTIONAL or we might
    not reference Close-Job at all).

    (And the Create-Document and Send-Data operations were already removed from
    the Document Object spec and aren't in the Job Extensions spec).

    Tom

    -----Original Message-----
    From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald@sharplabs.com]
    Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 15:43
    To: 'Michael Sweet'; Hastings, Tom N
    Cc: Dennis Carney; ipp@pwg.org
    Subject: RE: IPP> Document Object Spec Comments... [Validate-Job for
    each document vs. Create-Document/Send-Data]

    Hi Michael,

    We also agreed at today's SM telecon to remove the Create-Document
    and Send-Data operations entirely from the JobX spec. They can
    be added in some future IPP/1.2, if someone wants them. Also we
    agreed to remove entirely the new Close-Job operation.

    Although Close-Job is a good idea (a PSI idea), it's not useful
    if it's not REQUIRED and if the previous RFC 2911 last-document
    or empty document with Send-Document are not deprecated. We're
    not ready to rock the boat and change RFC 2911 behavior.

    Thanks for all your good feedback.

    Pete Zehler will be posting _one_ more revised IPP Document object
    shortly. After that, all review will be by email through and including
    the Portland face-to-face coming up in mid-June.

    Next week at the SM telecon, we'll review the new Overrides spec
    (replaces the Experimental PWG 5100.4 when adopted).

    Next week at the IPPFAX telecon, we'll review the new JobX spec
    (the useful operations, without the Document object itself).

    Cheers,
    - Ira McDonald
      High North Inc



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