IPP Mail Archive: IPP> RE: SM> Semantic Model Teleconfere

IPP Mail Archive: IPP> RE: SM> Semantic Model Teleconfere

IPP> RE: SM> Semantic Model Teleconference info (10/02)

From: McDonald, Ira (imcdonald@sharplabs.com)
Date: Tue Sep 30 2003 - 13:28:54 EDT

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    Hi Pete,

    Your SM agenda doesn't agree with the agenda posted by Harry Lewis (Amy's
    note this morning was out-of-date). The agenda for next week (according
    to Harry's note last Friday, 26 Sept):
    PWG - NYC Meeting - 2003 Details

    October 6 - 10, 2003
    Grand Hyatt
    New York, NY 


    WBMM Monday 9:30 - 5:00 pm PSI Tuesday 8:30 - 5:00 pm Plenary Wednesday 8:30 - Noon and 1:00 pm - 2:30 pm CR Wednesday 2:30 - 5:30 pm IPP Exts Thursday 8:30 am - Noon /JobX Semantic Thursday 1:00 - 5:00 pm Model(SM) Notify / Friday 8:30 - 1:00 pm Discovery BOF

    Location: Park Avenue at Grand Central Station New York, New York 10017 USA 1 212 883 1234 http://grandnewyork.hyatt.com/property/index.jhtml



    Cheers, - Ira McDonald High North Inc

    PS - I'll probably have to miss the SM telecon this Thursday, due to a time conflict. Good luck.

    -----Original Message----- From: Zehler, Peter [mailto:PZehler@crt.xerox.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:10 PM To: PWG Semantic Model WG (sm@pwg.org); IPP Discussion List (IPP@pwg.org) Subject: SM> Semantic Model Teleconference info (10/02)


    We will have a Semantic Model Teleconference this week. The teleconference details are below. The agenda is below. Please send out any comments/issues you wish to discuss during the teleconference by cob Wednesday. Current list of comments is appended below.


    1) Adjust agenda 2) Quick status of SM, Schema, JobX, Overrides and Document Object 3) Discuss upcoming face to face a. Tuesday SM (1/2 day pm) b. Thursday IPP extensions (1/2 day am) c. Thursday JobX (1/2 day pm) 4) Review any comments/issues a. Handle editorial first b. Discuss more involved comments and issues 5) Next steps

    Pete Peter Zehler XEROX Xerox Innovation Group Email: PZehler@crt.xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 422-7961 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701 Meeting Date: 10/02/2003 Meeting Time: 11:50 AM CENTRAL TIME Instant Meeting Details: --------------------------- USA Toll Free Number: 877-707-6056 VNET Number(Xerox): 8*594-0077 Participant Passcode: 437874 Meeting Date: 09/30/2003 Meeting Time: 1:00 PM Eastern (11:00 AM Pacific) Instant Net Conference Details: ------------------------------- Meeting Number: 747275324 Meeting Passcode: PwgSm Meeting Host: Pete Zehler Join Instructions for Instant Net Conference:

    REPEAT USERS 1. Join the meeting now: http://www.mymeetings.com/nc/join.php?i=747275324&p=PwgSm&t=c 2. Enter your name 3. Agree to the Terms & Conditions and click Proceed. NEW USERS 1. Go to http://www.mymeetings.com/nc/ 2. Type in the Meeting Number 3. Type in the Meeting Passcode (if one was provided) 4. Choose "Conference" and click Proceed 5. If you are a new user, click on "New Users" to check your system and download the software and go back to Join Net Conference page 6. Enter your name 7. Agree to the Terms & Conditions and click Proceed. Current list of comments.issues (9/30/03): Document Object (ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_DOC/wd-ippdoc10-20030908.pdf) Editorial Comments: 1) Cover Page Line 26: The sentence about listing "all" of the attributes defined in other IPP specifications is probably not going to be accurate for very long.....if now.. 2) Page 9, line 311: The sentence should read.... "The semantics of the "document-state..."...(missing "the"). 3) Page 9, line 317-320: This paragraph needs to be reworded to state what the spec. is, not what it's proposed to be. 4) Page 13, line 403: The Job operatations that MUST NOT have any ..... (remove the word "that" ) 5) Page 14, line 413: The semantic of Fidelity on a Job are intended..... (The "semantics" of Fidelity....) 6) Page 15, line 446,447,451 The sentence "For example, such Job Template attributes as "job-priority"...." sounds odd.. (should read "For example, Job Template attributes such as .....) Same comment for line 447 and 451 "Printer MUST NOT copy down any..." (should be "Printer MUST NOT copy any Job Level attributes ...") 7) Page 21, line 653: ..it is only an empty job which is.... (recommend: "it is an empty job that is scheduled and...) 8) Page 24, line 777: ..Document object was submitted...(should be: ...Document object is submitted...) 9) Page 24, line 781: ..The only differences are that the Set-Job-Attibutes operation is... (should be: ..The only difference is that the ...operation is...) 10) Page 26, line 831,832: Formatting problem (unnecessary indentation....) 11) Page 26, line 833: First sentence worded funny. (suggest: Most Document Description attributes (see...)are NOT settable, i.e., they are defined to be READ-ONLY.) 12) Page 45, line 1258: First character space on that line is inadvertently highlighted... 13) Page 48, line 1305, 1309; Page 51, line 1389; Remove the names of the attribute at the beginning of the description. It's both unnecessary and inconsistent with the other attribute descriptions. (There are other descriptive paragraphs with the same problem..Page 58,59 14) Page 57, line 1571: First printed character (') is highlighted for no reason. 15) Page 65,66,67 Remove highlighted areas... lines 1776-1778, 1785-1787, 1795-1797, 1830, 1844-1846, 1847-1849. Page 66, line1828 (PrintBasic: 1.0) is in red.... 15) Page 75, line 2221,2224 Broken reference links..... Issues: 16) Page 14, line 430-431: After a strong conformance statement on the client, the printer is required to accept a non-conformant client operation..... (should be an error if the client supplies this attribute in a Doc Creation operation.. and the Printer should be allowed to flag it..) 17) Page 26, line 837-839: The note that provides guidance for future extensions doesn't belong in a specification, it belongs in the requirements doc of the future extension.....it'll get lost in this spec.... (suggest removing the note) 18) Page 28 Cancel-Document operation (and line 922) Question/Comment: What happens to the document DATA when a document is cancelled (assuming it's already been sent to the Printer)? Line 922 should read ....which only cancels the processing of the document, and doesn't delete the document object itself..... But it still says nothing about the document DATA. If the DATA is kept after a Cancel Document then there may be a security issue for the overly security conscious since this is the only way a client can request a document NOT be processed (then the data hangs around in the print spool for some unknown time). (Cancel Doc is mandatory for Printer, Delete Doc is optional) If the Data is not kept, what is the mechanism for the reprocess job operation if the data is expected to be there? JobX (ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_JOBX/wd-ippjobx10-20030908.pdf) Editorial Comments: 19) Page 13, footnote 5 Operation is partially italicized....(shouldn't be) 20) Page 34, line 1051 Need a little more informative test explaining what these are in addition too..... 21) Page 37, line 1162 the word "PrintBasic:1.0" is in red.... 22) See page 16 Lines 497 - 500 of the Sept. 8 Draft.... Action Item: (Tom and Ira): Propose a format for the file...... Did this get resolved and/or just missed in the final edits? Overrides (ftp://www.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_EXC/wd-ippOverride10-20030910.pdf) No comments

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