IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> FW: Copyright statements in drafts

IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> FW: Copyright statements in drafts

RE: IPP> FW: Copyright statements in drafts

From: McDonald, Ira (imcdonald@sharplabs.com)
Date: Sat Jul 10 2004 - 12:57:21 EDT

  • Next message: don@lexmark.com: "RE: IPP> FW: Copyright statements in drafts"

    Hi,

    Harald Alvestrand replied to Carl-Uno Manros (see below):

      We do - which is why the phrase "reasonably and personally known to
      the submitter" in RFC 3667 / 3668 is so important.

    But "reasonably and personally" is NOT part of the IPR statement
    required at the beginning of every submitted I-D (without which
    the I-D Editor will no longer publish any I-D).

    Here's the relevant verbatim quote from "1id-guidelines.txt":

      All Internet-Drafts must begin with the following intellectual
      property rights (IPR) statement:

      "By submitting this Internet-Draft, I certify that any applicable
      patent or other IPR claims of which I am aware have been disclosed, or
      will be disclosed, and any of which I become aware will be disclosed,
      in accordance with RFC 3668."

    Personally, I'm not writing any more I-Ds. Because there's not any
    limitation in this IPR boilerplate about patents or IPR of _other_
    parties that the editor may be or become aware of.

    Cheers,
    - Ira

    Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
    PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
    phone: +1-906-494-2434
    email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org]On Behalf Of
    carl@manros.com
    Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 3:22 AM
    To: Ipp@Pwg. Org
    Subject: IPP> FW: Copyright statements in drafts

    All,

    Regarding some of the new required text in Internet Drafts.

    This has been discussed for a while on the IETF Chairs list.

    I raised a similar qustion to the one brougth up by Ira.

    See my question and the official answer from the IETF Chair Harald
    Alvestrand below.

    Carl-Uno

    Carl-Uno Manros
    700 Carnegie Street #3724
    Henderson, NV 89052, USA
    Tel +1-702-617-9414
    Fax +1-702-617-9417
    Mob +1-702-525-0727
    Email carl@manros.com
    Web www.manros.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [mailto:harald@alvestrand.no]
    Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 10:02 AM
    To: carl@manros.com; wgchairs@ietf.org
    Subject: RE: Copyright statements in drafts

    --On 3. juni 2004 15:49 -0700 carl@manros.com wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I am not sure whether I missed this in the discussion, but I can see some
    > problems with Copyright statements in early drafts. There may well be
    > people or organizations which already hold patents or copyrights for
    > things that find their way into I-Ds. If they are not actively involved
    > in that particular WG, they may not discover any infringements until the
    > RFC is in IETF wide Last Call. Hopefully we provide for Copyright
    > objections at that stage, even if there has been umpteen earlier I-Ds on
    > the subject.

    We do - which is why the phrase "reasonably and personally known to the
    submitter" in RFC 3667 / 3668 is so important.

                       Harald



    This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Sat Jul 10 2004 - 12:58:18 EDT