On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Tom Hastings wrote:
> At 18:03 12/18/1997 PST, Ron Bergman wrote:
> >Tom,
> >
> >I agree with Bill on this issue, especially that "the point may be moot"
> >
> >Have you asked Kinkos how they charge in this situation?
>
> I believe that Kinkos charges by the sheet for printing from a PC.
> For copying, they have a different rate for one versus two sided
> copying. So far, I have not run into a duplex printer at Kinkos,
> so I don't know whether they have a policy for two-sided printing.
> But if the printing charge is like the copying charge, this issue
> would be moot.
>
> >
> >We should stick with the agreement per the LA meeting.
>
> Then we may want to add a note that impressions is more for monitoring
> and sheets is for monitoring and accounting.
>
Could you post a copy of the note to be added to the DL?
> Tom
>
>
> There is another comment on this issue that was sent only to the IPP DL
> suggesting a rather simple algorithm that only worries about the last
> sheet, not any other sheets, and only as a recommendation. Is that a good
> compromise?
>
The proposed change sounds reasonable.
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> >Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:03:04 PST
> >To: "Wagner, William" <WWagner@digprod.com>
> >From: David R Spencer <david@spencer.com>
> >Subject: RE: IPP> Re: JMP> URGENT: Should impressions include blank last
> > page back sides or not?
> >Cc: ipp@pwg.org
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> >Bill,
> >
> >I'm just monitoring the group, but isn't there a significant difference
> between blank pages within a document and documents in a duplex job with an
> odd number of pages causing the COMPLETELY blank back side of the last page
> to be counted? Almost all page printers include an option for not printing
> such completely blank pages, and I think the point about user concern is
> well taken.
> >
> >Therefore, perhaps the sentence in the definition of impression:
> >> If a two-sided document has an odd number of pages, the last sheet still
> counts as two impressions, if that sheet makes two passes through the
> marker or the marker marks on both sides of a sheet in a single pass.
> >should be:
> >If a two-sided document has an odd number of pages and there are no marks
> to be made on second side of the last sheet, the last sheet should count as
> one impression, instead of two, even if that sheet makes two passes through
> the marker.
> >
> >David R. Spencer
> >
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Ron Bergman
Dataproducts Corp.