Date: Wed Jan 28 2009 - 17:22:34 EST
So far I have only received Bill Wagner's comments on the Resource Service
Bill's comments are all very good. Here is my proposed resolutions to the
Please review and let's decide our consensus in tomorrow's teleconference.
Some of the comments are about service states and state transitions. Ira
is the expert in this area, hope he will attend tomorrow's teleconference
and give us his expert recommendation.
Thanks for your participation.
"William A Wagner" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
01/27/2009 03:42 PM
RE: MFD> MFD Teleconference, Thursday 1/29 3:00 EDT
Some comments and questions.
1. It is common usage that a Job is submitted to the Service. This
in Abstract to the Resource Service and at various places in the text. I
have used the expression extensively in working on the General document.
in the model that is being defined, the user/client submits a CreateJob
request, and perhaps he submits a document, but the Service creates the
At least that is my understanding. Since this aspect of the model is
different from common usage, I suggest we avoid the terminology of
"submitting a job" in that it would reinforce a concept contrary to the
2. I have trouble with saying that the Resource Service is accepting
Jobs (para 18.104.22.168.1 et al). From my understanding of the overall model,
does not accept, create or deal with jobs. It accepts and provides
information about accepted resources to a user/client. It provides
to other Services. Should this be "is accepting and supplying resources"
3. If we agree in general that paths to and from Testing are
implementation dependent, I suggest that the "test" operation be removed
perhaps that the Testing state be removed from 22.214.171.124.1 and 126.96.36.199.2
4. The sole purpose is to provide resources to other services. Yet
are we considering the Resource Service to be completely independent and
separate from the Job Processing services?
a. Are the basic service operations described in Section 7.1 the
inter-service operations as well setup and configuration operations with a
b. Is there but one access path, so that in the Idle State, it is
handling neither client or Service requests? And in the Processing state,
is handling requests from a either client or another Service?
c. When it is Down and offline with respect to clients, is it also
offline with respect to responding to other services, perhaps in the same
5. SetResourceElements (7.1.11) and all of the Administrative
Resource Service Operations (7.2) are not indicated as Required or
6. In the compliance section (8), requirements are placed on clients
and Resource Service. If the operations listed also apply to the
Services, are these Services also Resource Service clients? If so, I
that it is not reasonable to require them to support all of the "required"
From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:50 PM
To: email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Re: MFD> MFD Teleconference, Thursday 1/29 3:00 EDT
This is a reminder.
As Pete announced, we will review the last updated Resource Service draft
the teleconference next Thursday to conclude our WG Last Call and move to
PWG Last Call version after the update from the teleconference next
I urge you all review the draft at:
and send your comments to email@example.com and cc me (firstname.lastname@example.org) or
We will resolve all your comments in next Thursday's teleconference and
prepare the Resouce Service spec for the PWG Last Call to start
Thanks for your participation.
01/22/2009 12:06 PM
MFD> MFD Teleconference, Thursday 1/29 3:00 EDT
There will be an MFD conference call at 3:00 PM EDT (12:00 PM PDT) this
Thursday. The meeting is held in accord with the PWG Intellectual
Note the NEW Teleconference number and access code are now used.
Please contact me if you do not have the new number and pass code.
1. Identify Minute Taker
2. Approval of minutes from last teleconference
3. Agenda bashing
4. Discussion on Scan Service State and proposed change to section 10 of
a) Chose between the existing text, proposed text or arrive at
some other consensus.
Existing text is section 10
Proposed change is available at
b) Discussion of Testing State, transition in and out, and method
5. Discuss syntax of JobPhoneNumber on line 2182 of Scan specification
6. Discuss open ended REQUIREMENT governed by a third party (End User)
policy on line 2788-2790 of Scan specification
7. Discuss any comments on the Resource Service interim draft.
Objective is to move to the Last Call version for review at the Face to
8. Next steps
Click Here to Join Live Meeting
Xerox Research Center Webster
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
800 Phillips Rd.
Webster NY, 14580-9701
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.4 : Wed Jan 28 2009 - 17:22:51 EST