> As the deadline for MIB updates and clarifications is today, I propose the 
> following.
> 
> 1) Put the table of ~25 Printer Conditions (as posted in err4.doc) in the 
> Printer MIB document.
> 
> 2) I withdraw my suggested wording.
Hold on a minute.  You also made some excellent contributions regarding
other aspects of the document that did not involve the "offline" issue.
I certainly hope we retain those, don't you?  (Besides, Chuck has probably
already made the changes...  ;-)
And thanks for making me realize that I did not follow up (in my message)
to describe the scenarios resulting from my proposed changes:
> It is apparent that we disagree on how it is best to present printer 
> condition information to our customers. As such, it should be left up to 
> the printer vendor to decide the best implementation for their customers. 
> When a generic management app interprets the Alert Table it may show the 
> user either of the following:
>    RED: Printer offline
>    YEL: Low toner
> or
>    RED: Low toner
> 
> To me the first says that the printer can be put back online to continue 
> printing; the second says the printer must have toner added to continue 
> printing. Let each vendor decide what is appropriate.
Based on my proposal, here is the scenario:
 1. Toner goes low, printer goes offline.  User sees this display from
    the management app:
	RED: Printer has stopped due to low toner
 2. User goes to printer, presses "Continue" (or whatever).  User now
    sees this display from the mgmt app:
	YELLOW: Printer is low on toner
That is, once "Continue" is invoked, the RED (critical) alert is removed
from the table, and is replaced with a YELLOW (non-critical, warning) alert.
You say:
> Let each vendor decide what is appropriate.
Ok, so we don't agree here.  We need to vote on this as quickly as possible.
	...jay