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RE: PS> [PSI]: minutes 4/9 8:00:am Pacific

From: McDonald, Ira (imcdonald@sharplabs.com)
Date: Tue Apr 09 2002 - 12:46:53 EDT

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    Hi Alan,

    Looks fine - you captured the two points about: (a) Job MIB (RFC 2707)
    reference for mimimum job persistence; and (b) the XML declaration of
    an attribute (or most of it) _is_ the attribute metadata returned
    by GetJobAttributes (with Name the required minimum returned).

    Thanks,
    - Ira McDonald
      High North Inc

    -----Original Message-----
    From: BERKEMA,ALAN C (HP-Roseville,ex1) [mailto:alan_berkema@hp.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:36 AM
    To: 'a PSI pwg.org'
    Subject: PS> [PSI]: minutes 4/9 8:00:am Pacific

    Here are the raw notes from todays call.
    I'll clean it up some for the F2F.
    See ya on Tuesday
    Alan

    PSI Meeting schedule
    Teleconference details 2002:

    Date: Tuesdays
          Tuesday April 23 (USA)
            No Call April 16 (F2F meeting)
          Through April 23 USA)
                  
    Time: 8 AM (US PST)
    404 774-4112 (T774-4112)
    ID: 55605
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    Attendees:
    Alan Berkema Paul Tukodi Dave Hall
    Jerry Thasher Harry Lewis Ira Mcdonald
    Kirk Ocke Peter Zehler

    Agenda:
    1) Off-Ramp Identifier
    2) PSI IPP mapping
    3) F2F Agenda Topic
            3.1) Off-RampIdentfier-
            SOAP endpoint preferred. PORT 9100 & UNC legacy.
            Add an SNMP endpoint.
            Responsibility of the PS to contact the Off-Ramp and get its
            device attributes. Method varies based on Off-RampIdentfier.
            3.2) Document reference -
            Add in BPP reference attributes. OBEX has doc type in header in the
            mime type field. Need to add this to document reference.
            3.3) IPP to PSI mapping. Purpose:
            A) Insure that we have not missed anything
            B) Semantic Alignment
            C) Leverage back.
            This section of the spec is like a work sheet to help us work
    through details of PSI. It may remain as an Appendix.
            3.4) RUI or not?
            3.5) Get JOBs per user or all jobs operation. Functionality &
    methods
            3.6) Persistence policy. PS needs to know when the job is actually
    printed. Keep job record for history. Job itself should hang around
    for some default time 30 secs/60 seconds. Use Job MIB example.
            3.7) Really web based job control. Extensible attributes, via
    browser.
            3.8) Programmatic method for extended attributes. How does client
    know if the Off-Ramp supports these extended attributes? And then know if
    some attributes are or are not supported. Meta data -Name, syntax, legal
    values, text description of what the legal values do. Make it the
    standard way for all attributes as well as extended attributes. Name
    required rest optional.
            3.9 Mechanism for mapping between PS, Off-Ramp & Client. Knowing
    what PS the client should talk to. PS to printer mappings.
            3.10) Attributes move from object to XML. Combine Base and extended.
    Name space for base, use different name space for vendor specific.
            Allows for greater flexibility and works with current tool kits.
            Also works better with concepts introduced in 3.8.
            Caveat is that it places the burden of validation on the receiving
    device. Group felt this was a reasonable trade off, the receiving device
    needs to be aware that a sending device could send bad attributes (or
    values).

            
    List of known work items:

    1) Query Interface for extensibility needs work.
    2) Off-Ramp Identifier needs to be defined
    3) Security Model needs work
    4) Job Status & Content Status needs to be defined.
    5) Need to rev RequiremntsRequirements doc.
    6) PSI overview section needs to be filled out

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    Name: PSI Meeting
    Date: 4/2/2002
    Time: 8:00AM, (GMT -08:00) Pacific Time, USA & Canada
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