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PS> Re^2: [Std Print System Events namespace]

From: Masanori ITOH (ito@src.ricoh.co.jp)
Date: Wed Jul 07 2004 - 05:06:08 EDT

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    Hi Mr. McDonald,

    I'm sorry to send my comment after PSI telecon.

    I'm worry whether some problems will occur when some Event
    schemas will be extended and be formally added to the Semantic
    Models. (That will be the schemas before you reduced for PSI.)
    Will the version of namespace be changed at that time ?
    I'm not sure whether problems will occur ....

    If there is no problem, I agree with you.
    Please add the namespace definition of SM/1.0 as 'targetNamespace'
    in the schema file, or the schemas are in PSI namespace when
    imported in WSDLs.

    Cheers,
    Masa.

    -----------------------
    Masanonri 'MASA' Itoh
    RICOH Co., Ltd. Software R&D Center

    ------------------------------------------------

    Mr. McDonald, Ira wrote on Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:02:40 -0700

    Hi,

    [By the way, Jerry Thrasher has offered to convert my draft
    Std Print System Events from HTML to Word - thanks, Jerry!]

    The namespace will be PWG Semantic Model/1.0, just like all
    currently approved schemas. The internal version tag will be
    1.x (something), but that's _not_ the namespace.

    So, the 'PrinterEvents', 'JobEvents', and 'DocumentEvents'
    elements can be referenced and used normally by PSI/1.0.

    _AFTER_ the Events spec and schema are formally approved
    (as PWG Candidate Standards), a copy of Events schema
    will be stored in the official directory:

    http://www.pwg.org/schemas/sm/1.0/

    OK?

    Cheers,
    - Ira

    Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
    PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
    phone: +1-906-494-2434
    email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Masanori ITOH [mailto:ito@src.ricoh.co.jp]
    Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 5:41 AM
    To: McDonald, Ira
    Cc: Berkema, Alan C (R&D Roseville); 'ps@pwg.org'; Hall, David M; Alain
    Regnier
    Subject: Re^2: Important PSI Teleconference 5/26/04 at 2:00PM

    Hi Mr. McDonald,

    I'm so sorry to be late for this reply to you.
    I've been a 'ROM' beacuse of my many pressing works.

    Thank you for this excellent summary of agenda.
    I can understand the content of the meeting very much.

    And I have a question.

    When "Standard Print System Events" will be voted
    as you mentioned as follows, what will be the 'Namespace'
    of the schema file (now posted in the ftp site as
    'events-20040621.xsd') for that working draft ?
    There is no definition of 'targetNamespace' in the file.

    Is it same as the one of the Semantic Model or of PSI ?
    If the schema definition is temporary and for PSI,
    is it same as the 'Namespace' of PSI ?

    Or if the schema definition is temporary for next addition
    to the Semantic Model, is it same as the 'Namesapce' of SM ?
    If so, I guess some problem will occur when some original
    Events before removing will be added.

    How do you think ?

    Thank you,
    Masa.

    -----------------------
    Masanonri 'MASA' Itoh
    RICOH Co., Ltd. Software R&D Center

    Mr. McDonald, Ira wrote on Fri, 28 May 2004 07:00:40 -0700

    Hi,

    At yesterday's meeting, we decided to simplify my recent
    "Standard Imaging Systems Events" draft and remove _all_
    of the multi-function/non-printer events and classes.

    I will very shortly issue "Standard Print System Events"
    as a PSI working draft. We will review it on the PSI
    mailing list (and in PSI telecons, if necessary).

    PWG people agreed to plan to hold an "Interim Plenary"
    (by telecon) in July, in order to:

    (1) Complete adoption of PWG Process 2.0

    (2) Complete 'last call' and then start Formal Approval
        (PWG-wide vote) of "Standard Print System Events".
        Then PSI/1.0 could be revoted for adoption.

    So we plan to keep the "SendXxxEvent" methods in PSI/1.0
    and the Events schema should be approved for addition
    to the PWG Semantic Model to support those methods.

    Cheers,
    - Ira

    PS - Separately, WIMS WG has decided _not_ to work on the
    multi-function imaging system model, but instead to call
    for a BOF in the August face-to-face on this topic. This
    might then lead to writing a charter for MFISM working
    group, development of requirements, and finally return to
    my recent draft Imaging System Model spec (I hope). Which
    would delay work on WIMS support for any non-print systems
    until sometime in calendar 2005, it would appear.

    Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
    PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
    phone: +1-906-494-2434
    email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Masanori ITOH [mailto:ito@src.ricoh.co.jp]
    Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:44 AM
    To: Berkema, Alan C (R&D Roseville)
    Cc: Hall, David M; McDonald, Ira; Alain Regnier
    Subject: Re: Important PSI Teleconference 5/26/04 at 2:00PM

    Hi Mr. Berkema,

    Thank you for your notice.
    But I couldn't attend that meeting becuase I read your E-mail
    after it. Sorry.
    (I might not be able to attend because it started early morning
    in Japan even if I read your E-mail before the meeting.)

    If there is the minutes, would you send them for me ?

    Thank you,
    Masa

    -----------------------
    Masanonri Itoh
    RICOH Co., Ltd. Software R&D Center

    Mr. Berkema, Alan C (R&D Roseville) wrote on Tue, 25 May 2004 10:06:31 -0700

    -----Original Message-----
    Dave, Mr. Itoh, Alain, and all,

    The PWG will discuss eventing and the impact on PSI at
    2:00PM PDT on 5/26/04 during the current F2F. This could
    have a dramatic impact on the PSI schedule.
    Please call in if you can.
      
    Dial In: 1-866-365-4406
    Toll #: 1-303-248-9655
    Passcode: 2635888#

    Thanks,
    Alan

    -----
    Alan Berkema
    Senior Engineer Scientist
    Connectivity Roseville, CA
    Hewlett-Packard Company
    Tel: 916 785-5605
    e-mail: aberkema@hp.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Masanori ITOH [mailto:ito@src.ricoh.co.jp]
    Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:07 PM
    To: Berkema, Alan C (R&D Roseville)
    Cc: Hall, David M; McDonald, Ira; Alain Regnier
    Subject: Re^2: For revision of PSI specification document (2004/01/13)

    Hi Mr. Berkema,

    Thank you for your apology.
    That's no problem. Never mind, please.

    I thought I should send this report to Mr. Hall rather than you because
    he is the editor of PSI-WG.
    But I decided to send it to you because my some E-mails could not be
    reached to Mr. Hall when I posted to him and I received the error
    message automatically sent from HP mail server, that is "Delivery to the
    following
    recipients failed. david_hall3@am.exch.hp.com".
    If that is not appropriate, I have to apologize to you for that.

    Cheers,

    -----------------------
    Masanonri Itoh
    RICOH Co., Ltd. Software R&D Center

    Mr. Berkema, Alan C (R&D Roseville) wrote on Wed, 19 May 2004 10:06:38
    -0700

    -----Original Message-----
    Sorry about the type in Mr. Itoh's name below, accidentally hit the send
    before reviewing regards, Alan

    -----
    Alan Berkema
    Senior Engineer Scientist
    Connectivity Roseville, CA
    Hewlett-Packard Company
    Tel: 916 785-5605
    e-mail: aberkema@hp.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Berkema, Alan C (R&D Roseville)
    Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:20 AM
    To: 'Masanori ITOH'
    Cc: Hall, David M; McDonald, Ira; Alain Regnier
    Subject: RE: For revision of PSI specification document (2004/01/13)

     
    Mr Itch,

    Thanks for your careful review,
    Dave can you make these editorial corrections for the next re-vote?

    Thanks,
    Alan

    ----
    

    ----- Alan Berkema Senior Engineer Scientist Connectivity Roseville, CA Hewlett-Packard Company Tel: 916 785-5605 e-mail: aberkema@hp.com

    -----Original Message----- From: Masanori ITOH [mailto:ito@src.ricoh.co.jp] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:59 PM To: Berkema, Alan C (R&D Roseville) Cc: Hall, David M; McDonald, Ira; Alain Regnier Subject: For revision of PSI specification document (2004/01/13)

    Hi Mr. Berkema,

    I found some mistakes in the document of PSI specification (2004/01/13). So I inform you, chairperson of PSI-WG about them.

    If PSI-WG will have chance of revision (e.g. when specification of 'UnsupportedElements' may be changed or new different return name from 'UnsupportedElements' may be defined ), please refer to them.

    Will you please point out any mistakes to me in this report.

    Cheers,

    ----------------------- Masanonri Itoh RICOH Co., Ltd. Software R&D Center

    -------------------------------------------------------------------- P.9 JobControlInterface 'GetJobs'

    CHANGING 'JobContainter' (misspelling)

    i.e. ...... jobs:JobContainter, ...... -> jobs:JobContainer ^^^^^^^^^ -------------------------------------------------------------------- P.10 TargetDeviceSupportInterface 'FetchNextDocumentByValue'

    DELETING 'Boolen' (Duplicate type definition of 'documentNumber' ?)

    i.e. FetchNextDocumentByValue(jobURI:URI) : documentNumber:int, Boolean ...... -> FetchNextDocumentByValue(jobURI:URI) : documentNumber:int, ...... -------------------------------------------------------------------- P.20 5.3.2 QuerySupportedInterfaces Returns: interfaceIdentifier:InterfaceIdentifierContainer

    MAKING the PLURAL FORM 'interfaceIdentifier' (cf. P.25 'targetDeviceIdentifiers:TargetDeviceIdentifierContainer' of '5.4.3 GetKnownTargetDevices' )

    i.e. interfaceIdentifier : InterfaceIdentifierContainer -> interfaceIdentifiers : InterfaceIdentifierContainer ^ -------------------------------------------------------------------- P.21 5.3.3 QueryInterfaceDefinition Exceptions: 'Description' of 'ClientErrorUnsupportedInterface'

    CHANGING '<secure>' (cf. P.84 '7.4 InterfaceIdentifier' )

    i.e. <secure> -> <sec> -------------------------------------------------------------------- P.32 5.5.2 CreateJob Parameters: description of 'requestedTargetDeviceDataType'

    What is 'a ProcessingRequestUnsupported exception' ? Is it the older version of 'ClientErrorAttributesOrValuesNotSupported' exception ? -------------------------------------------------------------------- P.41 5.5.8 GetJobs GetJobs(jobFilterElements:Job, ... , unsupportedElements : UnsupportedElements

    CHANGING 'JobContainter' (misspelling)

    i.e. ...... jobs:JobContainter, ...... -> jobs:JobContainer ^^^^^^^^^ -------------------------------------------------------------------- P.62 5.6.6 FetchNextDocumentByValue FetchNextDocumentByValue(jobURI:URI) : documentNumber:int, Boolean ...

    DELETING 'Boolen' (Duplicate type definition of 'documentNumber' ?)

    i.e. FetchNextDocumentByValue(jobURI:URI) : documentNumber:int, Boolean ...... -> FetchNextDocumentByValue(jobURI:URI) : documentNumber:int, ...... -------------------------------------------------------------------- P.77 7.2 Target Device Identifier

    CHANGING 'see appendix (X)'

    i.e. see appendix (X) -> see appendix A -------------------------------------------------------------------- P.79 7.3 Reference

    CHANGING 'see appendix (X)'

    i.e. see appendix (X) -> see appendix A --------------------------------------------------------------------



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