PWG Mail Archive: PWG> RE:IETF Working Group Charter - JMP

PWG> RE:IETF Working Group Charter - JMP

Tom Hastings (hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com)
Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:43:36 PST

Ron,

So we will need to add the JMP Charter to the Printer MIB WG Charter.

Does that mean that the Printer MIB WG name needs to be changed to
something like: Printer and Job Monitoring MIBs WG?

Or do we just keep the Printer MIB WG name but add the Job Monitoring
MIB charter info to the Charter of the Printer MIB WG?

By the way, the IETF code for the Printer MIB WG is "printmib".
See the IETF schedule of meetings. Also "printmib" is the symbol
for the OID name that is part of all OIDs in RFC 1759. The printmib
symbol is assigned to { mib-2 43 } by the MODULE-IDENTITY macro in
RFC 1759.

Does that mean that the OIDs for the Job Monitoring MIB will also
be part of the same sub-tree as the Printer MIB, or will the
Job Monitoring MIB project get assigned another OID arc under mib-2?
If a different OID arc, how does the Printer MIB WG go about requesting
a new arc?

By the way, I suspect that Ron can still be the Job Monitoring Project
leader under the Printer MIB WG, but the Lloyd and Chris are still
the co-chairs of the Printer MIB WG responsible for both the Printer MIB
and the Job Monitoring MIB, ok?

Tom

At 08:50 11/23/96 PST, rbergma@dpc.com wrote:
>Tom,
>
>Copy of the response from Deirdre.
>
>Please give me your reaction.
>
>She also copied Lloyd Young and Chris Wellens. I will ask
>for their response.
>
> ...Ron
>
>
>From: GATE::"kostick@qsun.ho.att.com" 21-NOV-1996 12:09:17.96
>To: rbergma
>CC: lpyoung, chrisw
>Subj: [Fwd: IETF Working Group Charter- Request for Information]
>
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>Ron,
>
>The existing Printer WG is the appropriate
>place for this work; a second WG will not
>be chartered.
>
>The work you described in the attached
>email is dependent on RFC1753, which is
>likely to be revised by the Printer MIB WG.
>Until they have completed their work, you
>won't have a stable base to work from.
>
>My suggestion is that you work with folks
>from the interested vendors to identify the
>information you need & general structure.
>Closely monitor the work of the printer WG
>MIB to insure that your work is consistent.
>
>Also work with the Printer MIB WG Chairs to
>get their input on when (&if) any changes
>to the Pprinter WG charter should be requested.
>
>Deirdre
>
>From: rbergma@dpc.com
>Original-To: GATE"kostick@qsun.att.com"@gate.dpc.com,
> GATE"hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com"@gate.dpc.com, RBERGMA@avalon.dpc.com
>Subject: IETF Working Group Charter- Request for Information
>
>Deirdre,
>
>The Printer Working Group has decided to pursue the development of
>an SNMP MIB to monitor print jobs and obtain resource accounting
>data at the completion of a job. We would like to obtain am IETF
>charter for this project as soon as possible. My assigned task
>is to determine what is necessary to accomplish this goal.
>
>We are presently trying to draft a charter, using the new charters
>for the Printer MIB and the Internet Printing Protocol as a guide.
>In addition to a Charter document, I am not sure exactly what steps
>are required. For example...
>
> 1. Do we need to have a BOF prior to requesting to be chartered?
>
>The Job Monitoring MIB is, in many respects, an extension to the
>Printer MIB (RFC 1759). During our recent meeting in New Orleans
>to discuss a revision to the Printer MIB, the development of a Job
>Monitoring MIB was a major discussion topic. Seven of the printing
>vendors represented at the meeting indicated support for this effort.
>This list included Xerox, IBM, Digital, Dataproducts, and Novell.
>
> 2. Is the chartering of a working group linked to a particular time
> or event, such as the IETF quarterly meetings?
>
> 3. I am aware that the chairman and editor must have IETF experience.
> Is it possible to have an arrangement, similar to the Printer
> MIB, where there are two chairs?
>
> 4. I will not be available to attend the IETF meeting in San Jose.
> Do you have a recommendation as how to precede or who I should
> contact to start this process?
>
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> Ron Bergman
> Dataproducts Corp
> rbergma@dpc.com
> 805-578-4421
>
>
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