PWG Mail Archive: RE: PWG> "Draft Standard" is an

RE: PWG> "Draft Standard" is an oxymoron

From: Hastings, Tom N (hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com)
Date: Fri Jan 31 2003 - 14:35:20 EST

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    Lee and Bill,
     
    The problem is what do you call successive versions of the Draft Standard,
    before you are ready to send it out for Last Call?
     
    Working Drafts of the Draft Standard?
     
    Using "Draft" in two different senses in the same sentence to identify a
    document is pretty confusing. And we know that people in normal conversion
    like to drop the adjectives and just talk about the "Draft". So which do
    they mean when they say the "Draft is ...".
     
    Tom

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Farrell, Lee [mailto:Lee.Farrell@cda.canon.com]
    Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 18:33
    To: PWG (E-mail)
    Subject: RE: PWG> "Draft Standard" is an oxymoron

    Duh.
     
    [If people can understand "jumbo shrimp" without losing sleep, I don't see
    why "draft standard" would cause a problem.]
     
    lee
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Harry Lewis [mailto:harryl@us.ibm.com]
    Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:05 PM
    To: Hastings, Tom N
    Cc: pwg@pwg.org
    Subject: Re: PWG> "Draft Standard" is an oxymoron

    Er... Um... so why is it so hard to put the definition to use and realize
    that a "Draft Standard" is a preliminary version of a "Standard"?
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    Harry Lewis
    IBM Printing Systems
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            "Hastings, Tom N" <hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com>
    Sent by: owner-pwg@pwg.org

    01/30/2003 04:24 PM

            
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            Subject: PWG> "Draft Standard" is an oxymoron

    Here is why I think that "Draft Standard" is an oxymoron. Draft is too
    fleeting. Standard is meant to be more stable.

    So I looked up the word "Draft" in the dictionary. Webster's Seventh
    Collegiate Dictionary says:

    "a preliminary sketch, outline, or version".

    We all use the word "draft" (or "working draft") to mean the document that
    we update rapidly to get to a version that we all consider stable enough to
    have a Last Call.

    So one of the appealing suggestions made at today's call was to just remove
    section 3.4 Draft Standard and have only 3.4 Proposed Standard and 3.6
    Standard. Both have to have a series of drafts to be reviewed to lead up to
    being an approved Proposed Standard or an approved Standard. And both need
    to have a draft that is considered good enough to both trying a Last Call
    and then the Last Call has to actually pass.

    I think much of our trouble is terminology, so fixing the terminology, and
    deleting a step seems to be a good thing to do and is NOT abandoning the
    process or overturning turnips.

    Tom



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